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    Posted: March 22 2008 at 3:50am
I am pretty close to getting this tank setup. Got my Lighting figured out now I just have to find a place to put the three ballasts.

I have two UGLY M57 MH ballasts and an ARO vho ballast I want to hide.  I was thinking of building a seperate box that could just sit beside the tank and house the ballasts, but that would look a little out of place.

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the box might not be a bad idea just make shure that they get lots of air movement in the box
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I agree with John. Good air circulation is the key to long life for electronics.
 
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while electronics need good air circulation, I have to offer a few suggestions on the M57 ballast's, these are the magnetic variety.
make sure that box is a metal electrical box, those ballast's do catch fire once in every blue moon. I have seen more than my share working on lighting. and they burn good. It would be best if they were each in their own box, it will help with heat dissipation.
 
you can get them pretty cheep in every possible size from a electrical supply store. they do not have to be ventilated, but it could help,(see caveat's below)  they sell boxes that do have some vents.
 just keep in mind that if a fire were to happen inside of that box that the box is placed so that the fire has no place to go.

my ballast is sealed (not water tight, just closed) inside of a non-vented metal box, the trouble that I have with the vented type, is that salt water can easily get into the vents.
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A two compartment, single fixture hood can be aranged to be asthetically balanced for your tank. Ballast mounted ontop of the light assembly, with a metal backing and side walls for flaming, along with cooling fans to help controll heating build up.
It can all be tucked into a rather nice hood for all that matters. Just a thought. Maximo
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I have mine in a vented metal box as described, then I put a little shelf inside my stand kind of high up. The vent in the ballast box lines up with the vent and fan that draws air through my sump area. So the fan pulls air out of the sump area in the stand, through the ballast box and out the back of the stand. That way the hot air isn't just blown into the stand from the ballast. Hope that makes sense.

It's worked great for me so far. Out of sight and no heat problems yet. 
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I hang ballasts on the back of the stand where possible or on the floor and always put them outside the stand to avoid moisture. In the summer is the worst time because the hot ballast heats the tank.Unhappy
The m57 is heavy. Is it a bare ballast with capacitor or is it in a box?
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Stephan, that sounds like a good way to set it up. 
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For sure.........keeps everything under cover and utillizes all aspects of equipement.
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Yeah, I guess I'll have to see if I get any trouble from pulling what would be humid air through the ballast box like Mark said. Here's a picture of the shelf. It sits just low enough to clear the drawer I put in the stand. I have plenty of room to move around and get into the sump and stuff.

You can see the blue lights from the fan behind it (it has LEDs on it). The red pads are my attempt at vibration isolation so that the 60 Hz hum from the ballasts doesn't transmit to the rest of the stand.  I think it helps a little.


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I have mine mounted on the top of my stand directly on the wood! Dont have any problems yet (knock on wood) I have an IR temp sensor and it reads the ballast at 183*! thats pretty hot I had it in a metal box but was afraid of overheating it. Thought about attaching a fan to it some how in new stand!
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I know some people just mount them in a small computer case.
It gives them a mostly fireproof box and if you leave the powersupply and fans connected, it gives good airflow also.
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I have used ammo cans to mount these types of ballasts in. They can be had for cheap at any Army surplus store ....
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I used a gutted out computer case and just sat it next to the stand (told everyone who visited that it was the server that controlled the tank %3cO%3c).  You can get a computer case from DI for very cheap.  Here's a couple pics:
 
The back of the computer case where I plug in the lights.
 
 
 
The inside showing the ballasts.  Some time after this picture was taken, I added another ballast just to the right of the upper one.
 
And here it is sitting under my skimmer cabinet:
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Is the case fan still in operation?
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Yes.  It's silent and provides cooling!
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