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Aquarium Related Classifieds : LF simple refugium light

Thu, 01/12/2017 - 11:29
Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: LF simple refugium light
Posted: January 12 2017 at 5:29pm

Good points above and good discussion. I agree with using what works for the application. I am coming from the angle that the Refugium will not be shown off to visitors, unless they ask.
Yes, the HD Special can be inconvenient to clip on. I have clipped it to plumbing and to parts of the stand. Other times I have discarded the clip and simply hung it by the cord. I've put grabber screws into the stand above the Refugium. It's a very light weight fixture so there is no electrical danger when hung by the cord. 
One important safety step for the HD Special is to use a Zip Tie to secure the clip and/or the cord so there is no risk of the light falling in the water. 
As far as corrosion, that's not a problem. The clip-on cone reflector is light weight aluminum. It lasts a long, long time. Like any Refugium light, salt spray needs to be cleaned off periodically.
Today there are so many more options available to us than when I got into the hobby. Back then almost everything was DIY. Even with all the options I still choose to consider the equipment that does the proper job at the lowest cost. 
The Refugium can be a critical part of tank filtration. I sometimes wonder if some hobbyists don't realize that if the lighting is bright enough, the algae should almost double every month or two.
Aloha,Mark  
BTW, this was the entire system, the floating reef, with beautiful Blue Spot Ribbontail Ray and Batfish. Nobody cared what the Refugium looked like. 
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Aquarium Related Classifieds : LF simple refugium light

Thu, 01/12/2017 - 11:27
Author: Krazie4Acans
Subject: LF simple refugium light
Posted: January 12 2017 at 5:27pm

I Did clean them up. You've seen how it looks Mr. Pot calling the kettle black. :)

Everyone's a critic. Lol


Edited by Krazie4Acans - 3 hours 33 minutes ago at 5:27pm
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Aquarium Related Classifieds : LF simple refugium light

Thu, 01/12/2017 - 11:05
Author: Hogie
Subject: LF simple refugium light
Posted: January 12 2017 at 5:05pm

Krazie4Acans wrote:


My own version. As Adam will attest it is almost as cool to look at the sump as it is the display. I think he took more pictures of the sump while on the reef tour than he did the display.



Can you find the LED refugium light in my sump? It's the small black box between the skimmer and the reactor body. I'm pretty sure I could not fit an HD special in here and if I somehow found a way it would definitely detract from the enjoyment of looking down here.



Man, look at all those loose wires in the back...what a mess and how embarrassing...you better clean that thing up! Geez, some people are such slobs.   

Edited by Hogie - 3 hours 53 minutes ago at 5:07pm
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Aquarium Related Classifieds : LF Stomatella Snails

Thu, 01/12/2017 - 10:51
Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: LF Stomatella Snails
Posted: January 12 2017 at 4:51pm

They reproduce very well in all my systems. They are mostly nocturnal so I don't bother picking them out of the tank, because when irritated they often dismember themselves, similar to a lizard dropping it's tail for a predator. Instead, I offer them as hitchhikers on lively LR pieces I make available for nominal charge to anyone that brings their own container. I insist on moving LR in water so that all the animals on and in the LR survive for the new owner. My contact number is 808-345-1049
Aloha,Mark  
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Aquarium Related Classifieds : Zoa Rock FS/FT

Thu, 01/12/2017 - 10:24
Author: xixi6
Subject: Zoa Rock FS/FT
Posted: January 12 2017 at 4:24pm

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Aquarium Related Classifieds : Acan

Thu, 01/12/2017 - 10:10
Author: Cesar_salgado
Subject: Acan
Posted: January 12 2017 at 4:10pm

$50 OBO

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Aquarium Related Classifieds : Orange acan enchinata

Thu, 01/12/2017 - 09:52
Author: Cesar_salgado
Subject: Orange acan enchinata
Posted: January 12 2017 at 3:52pm

$50


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DIY : 40b sump build

Thu, 01/12/2017 - 09:49
Author: proskier101
Subject: 40b sump build
Posted: January 12 2017 at 3:49pm

Krazie4Acans wrote:

Does the skimmer area give you room so that if your skimmer overflows it all stays in the sump?

Melev makes great stuff. His baffles do have teeth on top. Great for helping with snail control, bad for being quiet and reducing splash (think about the overflow and the noise that they make with water going through teeth) compared to an over the entire top edge type. The way you have it will probably work as well it might just work a little better or be less mess in the long term if you tweak it a little.

The skimmer does have enough room.  Even where it sits now, it would flow into the sump, giving it an extra inch would just allow more volume in that chamber.  Ill get a picture with all the stuff in it too.

I was hoping being able to control the flow in the fuge and having only a 2"ish drop it would be ok.   We will see.

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Equipment : Replacement Pump

Thu, 01/12/2017 - 08:53
Author: shaggydoo
Subject: Replacement Pump
Posted: January 12 2017 at 2:53pm

I just received the pump that comes with the CAD Lights setup (a Jebo AP3500) rated at 660 gph, but they didn't send me the top part that hooks to the plumbing. This is a cheap pump, and I'd rather replace it now with something better. The tank is drilled and came with a 1/2" bulkhead with flexible tubing for a return line, and if possible, I'd like to use the same hookup/parts that came with the tank. Does anyone have any pump suggestions?
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Aquarium Related Classifieds : LF Stomatella Snails

Thu, 01/12/2017 - 08:07
Author: paul.brandon83
Subject: LF Stomatella Snails
Posted: January 12 2017 at 2:07pm

Is there anyone who has stomatella snails they would like to sell?
Thank you!
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Aquarium Related Classifieds : LF simple refugium light

Thu, 01/12/2017 - 06:48
Author: solofish731
Subject: LF simple refugium light
Posted: January 12 2017 at 12:48pm

INNOVATIVE MARINE MAGNAFUGE LED REFUGIUM LIGHT - 6500K MAGNET MACRO ALGAE GROWTH
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DIY : 40b sump build

Thu, 01/12/2017 - 06:34
Author: Krazie4Acans
Subject: 40b sump build
Posted: January 12 2017 at 12:34pm

Does the skimmer area give you room so that if your skimmer overflows it all stays in the sump?

Melev makes great stuff. His baffles do have teeth on top. Great for helping with snail control, bad for being quiet and reducing splash (think about the overflow and the noise that they make with water going through teeth) compared to an over the entire top edge type. The way you have it will probably work as well it might just work a little better or be less mess in the long term if you tweak it a little.
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Aquarium Related Classifieds : LF simple refugium light

Thu, 01/12/2017 - 06:10
Author: backwards32
Subject: LF simple refugium light
Posted: January 12 2017 at 12:10pm

haha you guys are funny. There are many ways to skin a cat. I will admit I have in the past done the setup that mark is describing but as discussed was not happy with the look and functionality.

here is what I ended up going with and I feel is simple yet looks nice and I feel will grow some good algae.




to each there own I guess haha
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DIY : 40b sump build

Thu, 01/12/2017 - 04:38
Author: proskier101
Subject: 40b sump build
Posted: January 12 2017 at 10:38am


Krazie4Acans wrote:

Are you accounting for the thickness of the baffle materials in those measurements? The two outside baffles of you bubble trap can go outside your lines but the center baffle is going to hang over your line and make the space slightly smaller. I'm not sure if that matters or not.

Also the baffle on the right of the bubble trap is not really needed as the bubbles should be trapped in the left side and not make it to the return side. Do you have a reason for needing a 13" return area? That seams quite large and I'm sure you could use more space in the skimmer area.

Your baffle on the fuge side is tall compared to the bubble trap. Water spilling over that into the return area will splash and cause bubbles. Is that what you intended? You could do a bubble trap on it as well to prevent the splashing and noise.


I did not account for the thickness....I will now though. lol.

only reason for the return would be for extra stuff to put in the sump. I can give the skimmer and extra inch and scoot everything down.  the fuge noise and splashing is little concern I think, it actually has teeth on the top.


I bought the baffles from Melevs reef

http://www.melevsreef.com/node/53

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DIY : 40b sump build

Thu, 01/12/2017 - 04:01
Author: Krazie4Acans
Subject: 40b sump build
Posted: January 12 2017 at 10:01am

Are you accounting for the thickness of the baffle materials in those measurements? The two outside baffles of you bubble trap can go outside your lines but the center baffle is going to hang over your line and make the space slightly smaller. I'm not sure if that matters or not.

Also the baffle on the right of the bubble trap is not really needed as the bubbles should be trapped in the left side and not make it to the return side. Do you have a reason for needing a 13" return area? That seams quite large and I'm sure you could use more space in the skimmer area.

Your baffle on the fuge side is tall compared to the bubble trap. Water spilling over that into the return area will splash and cause bubbles. Is that what you intended? You could do a bubble trap on it as well to prevent the splashing and noise.
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Aquarium Related Classifieds : LF simple refugium light

Thu, 01/12/2017 - 03:38
Author: Krazie4Acans
Subject: LF simple refugium light
Posted: January 12 2017 at 9:38am

I wanted to illustrate my point a bit more. This is the picture Mark shared. Not a bad setup and I'm sure it works and does what is intended. It's probably not a focal point of your reef or something that draws as much attention as the display it's connected to.



My own version. As Adam will attest it is almost as cool to look at the sump as it is the display. I think he took more pictures of the sump while on the reef tour than he did the display.



Can you find the LED refugium light in my sump? It's the small black box between the skimmer and the reactor body. I'm pretty sure I could not fit an HD special in here and if I somehow found a way it would definitely detract from the enjoyment of looking down here.


Edited by Krazie4Acans - 6 hours 19 minutes ago at 9:41am
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Aquarium Related Classifieds : Looking for hammer, frogspawn etc

Thu, 01/12/2017 - 02:54
Author: willrileyiv
Subject: Looking for hammer, frogspawn etc
Posted: January 12 2017 at 8:54am

Looking to add 1-3 heads of different colors of euphillia to my garden. Text me what you got and price and we can work from there. Thanks

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DIY : 40b sump build

Thu, 01/12/2017 - 02:52
Author: proskier101
Subject: 40b sump build
Posted: January 12 2017 at 8:52am

I finally got my stuff to build my sump for the 75g tank/stand that I won at MWRF.


here is the design: (its hard to see)


The left side is the skimmer and filter sock, I have it at about 9" wide.

I then have the bubble trap that is 1" wide and the middle is 1.5"gap on the bottom.

The pump return is in the middle at 13" wide.

The right side as a 12" wide refugium that will T off the return and have a valve to control the flow.

What are the thoughts on those measurements?

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Aquarium Related Classifieds : LF simple refugium light

Thu, 01/12/2017 - 01:46
Author: Reefer4Ever
Subject: LF simple refugium light
Posted: January 12 2017 at 7:46am

I am going to chime in here with the fact that Mitch asked for a simple LED refugium light and even posted a picture of the type of light he is looking for. I also agree that the cheapest way to do something is not necessarily the best way.
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Aquarium Related Classifieds : LF simple refugium light

Thu, 01/12/2017 - 01:22
Author: Krazie4Acans
Subject: LF simple refugium light
Posted: January 12 2017 at 7:22am

Mark Peterson wrote:

This hobby does not have to be so expensive and, backwards32 did ask for a "simple refugium light", right? 
Aloha,Mark  

I'm not sure when Webster changed the definition of simple to the cheapest. I'll have to research that.

Simple to me means: Easy to mount/remove, not a lot of parts, reliable and long lasting, No tools required.

I'm just going to play the devils advocate here for a minute on this as I think if Mark is going to explain why he goes with the cheapest option, I should also touch on why some people would not go that route. This is not disputing that the HD special works and will grow macro. However, I have seen a significant trend in this hobby toward systems where the sump and filtration areas are just as clean and tidy as the display. So aesthetics play a huge role in these setups. While the HD special may work, it is not a pretty look and is quite bulky. The other trend I see is to replace high voltage devices around our aquariums will lower voltage DC devices to reduce the risk of shock. I've found the squeeze clamp mount to be quite hard to get to hold in a reliable way with the plastic trim on most sumps (Whether it's a tank turned into a sump or a more expensive manufactured sump with top bracing). I also find the galvanized metal used in the squeeze clamp and adjustment arm to be less than ideal in an area where salt spray is almost always present.

So does it work? Yes.
Is it pretty? No
Is it risky to have a less than ideal mounting system holding a high voltage electrical appliance over a water filled tub? YES!
Will it rust and corrode quickly? Yes.
Is it UL listed for use in close proximity to water? No.
Is the light designed for the purpose at hand? No.
Is it easy to get? Yes.
Is it inexpensive (read this cheap)? Yes.

I'll see if I can find any reference to simple meaning the cheapest option. My quick google search returned zero results.
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