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Newbreefer 
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 Posted: May 26 2008 at 10:50pm |
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thanks mark, i actually picked up 4 bins of it from Adam here in the forums who is relocating to NY soon. My concern with using the pressure washes is... dont they recycle the water they use? so don't i have a risk of contaminating the rock with soaps and such?
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Mark Peterson
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Posted: May 26 2008 at 7:52pm |
It's Monday already!
We used to find good rock just lying on the surface. Now it has to be dug up.
Cleaning is very important, but once the rock is thoroughly cleaned with high pressure wash, it is sterile and almost unlimited amounts can be added to a tank, new or old.
The sand can be scooped up from the dunes on the way to the mudflats.  |
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Posted: May 24 2008 at 8:38pm |
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so once you've found the site with the sand and rock do you have to dig around for the rock or are they just kinda laying on the surface? i may be going monday to look for some. also to introduce this to an already established tank do i just need to make sure it's good and clean like described in the first few posts?
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Posted: September 10 2007 at 3:01pm |
Thanks for the help finding the sand! I'm working on my first tank this week!
I didn't however find any LR. I dug in the mud flats for a while. Anyone have any to spare or trade for some LS?
And also just wondering if anyone has any suggestions on cleaning this sand. What is a good way to do this? I have screened all the sticks, roots, etc out. Ultimately I don't want to lose the sand to my drain!
Brinton
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Posted: August 17 2007 at 10:39pm |
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this site rocks just wish I would have found when i started
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out with the large and in with the nano
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Posted: August 16 2007 at 9:02am |
I just created a short tutorial with pics on cleaning Utah Sand. I thought it would be nice to have a link to it from this thread: http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19921-Rocks
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Posted: March 01 2007 at 9:15pm |
WHOA!!! you move to st george? I am definitly coming to get some free advice!!! Called "the living art aquarium" BTW 
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Mark Peterson
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Posted: February 27 2007 at 6:54pm |
Having fun being married in St. George.   
No more sand and rock collecting trips.  missing my "fishy" friends.
PC Pond builder has a nice LFS here called umm... Artistic Aquariums. Drop in sometime.
My new number is 435-669-0131
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Nice area picture!
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Posted: November 09 2006 at 11:40am |
Just made a trip out to get rock this last week and wanted to add some details to the discussion on the location. Including gps coordinates and a detailed map. The gps coordinates for the site we went to are (40° 48.677' N and 112° 32.119' W). The distance from 11 (turn off to broken arrow salt) to 10 (turn off to dig site) is 1.4 miles and from 10 (turn off to dig site to 9 (dig site) is .6 miles. Here is the a detailed picture. Enjoy. 
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Posted: September 06 2006 at 4:45pm |
I am so ready to make the trip out west to gather some sand and rock. Old Lake Bonneville, who'da thunk it?
Hey I wish black lava rock was a good base rock substitue, I know where VERY MUCH of this stuff sits.
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Mark Peterson
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Posted: July 09 2006 at 5:49am |
I agree. It seems to me that sand and rock may dissolve, but not fast enough to keep the stony coral growing like most of us want. We see a much healthier aquarium and much faster growth of Coralline algae, stony coral, clams and even soft coral when Alk, Ca, and Mg are supplemented according to needs as determined by testing.
But I cannot believe that a tank with Lego's for substrate would do as well as one with Aragonite/CaCO3 sand.
Note: a post above has been edited to provide info regarding making your own Alk and Ca additives and how to determine dosage.
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Posted: May 19 2006 at 2:16pm |
It doesn't really matter anyway... in the end it's just an academic discussion. If your sand dissolves enought to keep your calcium and alk at desired levels then good for you. Otherwise, use some other method (bionic, kalk, calcium reactors, etc) to supplement your dissolving sand. I know in my system, my sand does not dissolve. I've got the same amount of sand today that I had 2 yrs ago. But maybe I don't have a deep enough sandbed :shrug:.
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Adam Blundell
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Posted: May 19 2006 at 1:25pm |
You see Jon here is the problem. You and I disagree on the solubility of aragonite and the conditions of our sand beds. Unfortunately I know that you are smarter than I am. Therefore I don't usually bring up this topic because I know I must somehow be wrong.
But don't tell anyone. Adam
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Posted: May 19 2006 at 12:08pm |
I agree with Adam about silica sand. And I still don't think aragonite sand dissolves to any apprecable extent  .
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Adam Blundell
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Posted: May 19 2006 at 9:43am |
Play sand is usually silica. It is not made of Calcium Carbonate. Calcium Carbonate is the same thing as LR from the ocean. Utah Oolitic Sand and LBTR are Calcium Carbonate. This is essential to the proper functioning of a reef aquarium.
I'm still not convinced of this. I think silica sand, legos, tufa rock, anything can be used well in an aquarium. Jon doesn't think that aragonite even dissolves in our tanks (but I think it does). Regardless, who cares?
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