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Suzy,

I'm in for the Super Pods.  Can I house them in my refugium or do I need to setup a separate tank?  I'd also like to start an algae culture, but as a beginner this is all way over my head (your mad scientist lab boggled me), maybe I should start out with something simple and easy.

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Originally posted by Amie Amie wrote:

I'd like the Nannoclorosis.  I might want tetraselmis
also, but I need to look under the microscrope at the phyto I currently
have to see what it is.  I'll do that tomorrow.  How large are the
individual phyto. cultures going to be?


If I knew more about copopods, I might be interested - but I would
have a clue what to do with them.  Do you just dump them into your
refugium or do you set up a hatchery area for them?  Is it like growing
rotifers?  Are they smaller/bigger than rotifers?



Each culture is 25 mls. But, if 2 people want the same one, it could be
split!

Copepods are the kings o' zooplankton! Bigger than rots, smaller than
amphopods. The type that Eric is offering are the free swimming kind that
are easily snicked up by corals 'cause they stay in the water column. They
are incredibly more nutritious than any other food on this planet! Plus,
they grow easily on live phyto, paste or fish poo! And, they are a
renewable resource!!!
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Originally posted by Amie Amie wrote:

Originally posted by Suzy Suzy wrote:

. What if we all cultured a different
species, then we traded?!


Suzy, this is a great idea.  We would all be paying the same amount,
but getting a culture from all of them.  I am SO in on this order if you
want to do it this way.  If it was timed right, we could trade the harvested
cultures at the next meeting.


Maybe a price should be set on these cultures if sold outside of the
group that originally paid for them.  The money could go into a piggy
bank to be used if one of the cultures ever has to be replace down the
road.



Wow! Super idea!
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[QUOTE=OceanBlueSky]

Suzy,


I'm in for the Super Pods.  Can I house them in my refugium or do I
need to setup a separate tank?  I'd also like to start an algae culture, but
as a beginner this is all way over my head (your mad scientist lab boggled
me), maybe I should start out with something simple and easy.

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Are you planning on a special upcoming event? You know it's going to
happen!

Phyto is really easy! My lab is just me kinda getting carried away! It just
needs a light source and someway to move the water!

But, the pods I have now can be raised on phyto paste. I think you could
use flake too. I also have a huge bag of spirulina powder that I can share
with you. Eric says these guys might have a little more to them, but he
will help us!

I think you will want to set up a seperate container, if you are using them
to raise fry babies. They would be too hard to harvest swimming all
through the tank! Plus, they would get snicked by everything! i have just a
2 gallon tank, and I put a airline in it, just 'cause the top of the water kept
getting scum. But, I also have a mason jar, just in case the tank
contaminates! But, it hasn't happened yet!

Also, you will want to learn how to hatch and enrich baby brine shrimp,
because 500 fry babies can eat a lot! BBS are much less nutritious than
pods, but can be "enriched" (gut-loaded) with a yummy meal of
Rhodomonas!

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Suzy, ive been doing some reading and found a lot of info that suggests the acartia does best in brackish water (15ppt i think). Can you ask the guy for some basic requirements (temp, salinity etc)?

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Bob, here is the site i was talking about.

This site has some of the best information on culturing phyto and zooplankton ive seen and its free! 

http://www.fao.org/

Theres lots of good info just a search away. Here is a good one i found...

http://www.fao.org/DOCREP/003/W3732E/w3732e00.htm#Contents

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Sure, Adam! He said he will help us get them strong!
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Suzy, change my order to tetraselmis instead of nanno.

If I'm going to be raising clownfish, do you think the copepods would work instead of rotifers?  Or would they be too big?  Suzy, do you still raise rotifers for your seahorses or have you switched to copepods?



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I bleached my rotifer staff when they contaminated my pods for the
second time!

I have a culture of very small pods. They are more nutritious, so they
would increase survival rates, I would think.

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So, where are we on a possible order? If there is 5 of us(oceanbluesky,Adam, Amie and myself. we can split if that is feasible. I will culture any of the species. And definately like to split the pods.
WMAS is da place!
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Originally posted by Suzy Suzy wrote:


Each culture is 25 mls. But, if 2 people want the same one, it could be
split!

250 ml?

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Oops! Forgot a zero....

Anybody else want in before it's too late?
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If I'm going to be raising clownfish, do you think the copepods would work instead of rotifers? 

Amie- I think copepods will work better.  I know that C-quest believes in using copepods almost exclusively.  They say copepods are "the key" to raising fish.

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WOW! Motherload! Mr CEO just emailed the other phytos!!! I thought I'd
forgotten a couple!

"2 strains of Nanno, 2 of Thal weisflogii, thal pseudonanna, Chaetoceros
gracilis, C. muelleri, Skeletonmea costatum, Dunaliella tertiolecta,
Rhodomonas lens, R. salina, Amphorta spp, T.iso, C. iso,
Pavlova(Monochrysis lutherii), Tetraselmis suecica, T. chuii, Spirulina
platensis...."

BananaAdam! I'm over whelmed! I want one of each! I feel like an aquatic
equestrian in an OR store!

I know Rhodamonas is the king!
And, chaetocerous is killer!

Is Thal weisflogii a diatom?

And, spirulina? Too cool!

Pavlova? I know I need that!

Help me choose!
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Good lord! So many choices, where do you begin Suzy?
WMAS is da place!
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Suzy, I am going to pass on an order this time.  I have had too many crashes of the "easy" stuff.  I need to re-evaluate my process.  Besides, I just bleached my algae system and need to get it cleaned out.
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How hard is Pavlova to grow?
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I think it is one of the hardest, but I still think you should try it. If it
doesn't take off, you can have some of Adams stuff!

(Just kidding, we'll all get something cool in the end!)
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Suzy, i'll take the T-isochrysis and the Rhodomonas.
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Phytos: Adam: T Iso, Rhodo
Suzy: Chaeto!! and another diatom
Bob: Nanno

Amie: tetraselmis


Super Pods:
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OK, who am I missing? Anyboby waqnt to make changes? Mark, do you
want in or stick with that food colored water?

I know you seahorse and clownfish breeders are going to jealous of our
pods! Sure you don't want in?

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