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    Posted: August 17 2014 at 9:16am
So phosphates are high and it'll take some time to get them down. In the mean time can anyone recommend a good hair algae eater?
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A yellow tang hehehe
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Actually...
Phosphates can be brought down quite swiftly.
There is not really one size [of algae eater] that fits all.

How long is the algae?
How much area does it cover?
What have you tried so far?
What is the look of the tank currently - pic please?

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Yellow Tang, water changes and patience assuming its not so high life in the tank is in jeopardy.
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GFO and a Sea Hare. How are nitrates?
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The tank is not in jeopardy, I've tried a yellow tang and he's just useless. My shark nose goby died because of him. He's going back to the store. And I won't consider another one. I've manually removed most of it and I already have 2 mexican turbo's and 2 belize turbo's. Hermit crabs are a no go because I have a dottyback who likes to eat them and I've done emerald crabs but 1. they're opportunistic eaters. I'll spare you the story and 2. I've had them go after my corals over hair algae. The algae cover spots randomly around the tank so from one end to the other you can see patches of it. Mark you mentioned getting the phosphates down quickly, how so? I did another water change last night but I've been told that water changes don't get rid of phosphates, which I'm not 100% sure about because I'm not familiar with all the mechanics of phosphates.
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Pm'd
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Faith, 

I was just saying that because I know you have that little $%^#. 

If most of its gone and you are using GFO , and have turbo snails. Unless its really bad you can add a seahare but they will starve to death once its all gone. In the past when I have run into issues. I run GFO. Pull lots out by hand (as much as possible) Add Turbos and usually within a few weeks its all gone. 

Now I sometimes might need to pull out the hair by hand again. But if I keep up on it, it will start to go away. 

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Originally posted by hydro phoenix hydro phoenix wrote:

So phosphates are high and it'll take some time to get them down. In the mean time can anyone recommend a good hair algae eater?
If you want to add another fish ya can't go wrong with a FoxFace or scribble fish.Only fish i have seen that will eat bryopsis. Big smile
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It would really help a lot if we could see a pic of the tank,
or if you still have the club fish trap I would be happy to come get it and do an evaluation to give you some really good advice for your situation. Text or call me at the number below

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I am quite familiar with the mechanics of Phosphates. GFO is too slow. AA is much faster at removing PO4 from the water. I have helped hobbyists conquer algae problems in hundreds of systems. Give it a chance. You won't be disappointed.


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I'd still do the Sea Hare & GFO combo. Here's why:
 
1) A foxface is an great choice, except this is only a 55g tank. Hard to find a foxface small enough to be comfortable in there; if you can find a small one (2") then go for it.
 
2) Yes, the Sea Hare would starve after consuming all the HA; when that time comes, put it up on the board or bring it back to the store. Pretty easy to catch a Sea Hare in your tank (as opposed to catching a fish). If your tank aquascaping is set up such that you had difficulty getting the Yellow Tang out, removing the Foxface later will be just as difficult if not more so.
 
3) Alumina does remove pO4 faster than GFO; however, there is such a thing as removing the pO4 too fast - and that sometimes causes certain corals to stress and bleach
 
 
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I agree with Bob.
Regarding item 3, it's simply a matter of using less AA, like just 1/8 - 1/4 cup and since AA is so much less expensive than GFO, it's a great bargain. I have AA for sale at a great price in MarksReef Coral Farm.

Still, a pic of the tank would really help and I believe there is still the matter of dealing with the naughty Yellow Tang without disturbing the rest of the tank. Either train it or catch it.
Faith, have you tried to catch it the easy way at night? Did you try hanging the fish trap up in the water column? Have you tried training the YT? have you tried not feeding for a few days so the YT will get hungry enough to eat the algae?

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So just to let you all know I've got the yellow tang caught and separated. He will be going back to the store soon. I don't have time this week to have people over to evaluate the tank as this is the first week of the new semester. Now it's just a matter of getting the phosphates down. I'd appreciate having someone here to help me do my first dosing of AA or GFO. But this week again is really bad.
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I've done seahares but they don't live long in the tank.
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I am not familiar with AA... Amino acids? Or do you mean AC.... Activated carbon?
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I got a lawn mower Lenny to try to take out a small patch of hair, but it doesn't touch it.
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If you can find them...chitons.
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Oh I forgot about Chitons... they do eat it! 

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AA = Activated Alumina aka Seachem Phosguard aka Kent Phosphate Sponge. AA seems to literally suck the phosphate right out of the water. Like Tom Hanks in Joe Vs. The Volcano "suck, suck, suck".
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