Naso Tang
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Topic: Naso Tang
Posted By: stephan
Subject: Naso Tang
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 6:55pm
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I just put a Naso Tang into my aquarium and my yellow tang
(approximately the same size) is not happy about it. It's the first time I've seen him use the little spiky thing on his tail. My clown fish did this when I added a new one for a few days and then the violence died down. SHould I expect the same with these two. Is there anything I can do to establish peace sooner or ease the tension? ------------- Stephan Lovstedt Camarillo, CA 65 Gallon Glass |
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Posted By: stephan
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 7:46pm
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Furthermore, the yellow tang has never been agressive to any other fish.
It seems like the naso tang is sufficiently different looking that the yellow wouldn't feel threatened by his presence. How does a yellow tang see a naso tang and say to himself- "uh oh, there's another surgeonfish". These probably aren't the most exciting issues for all you old pros but it's the latest in my watery world. ------------- Stephan Lovstedt Camarillo, CA 65 Gallon Glass |
Posted By: tileman
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 7:46pm
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You can turn the lights off for awhile, untill tomorrow, but they will probably be that way for a few days. Yellows and purples are very authoritarian. ------------- 335G Reef TOTM. http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2015/2/aquarium ReefKeepers TOTM Feb. 2012 http://reefkeeping.com/joomla/index....k-of-the-month & |
Posted By: jeffras
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 9:09pm
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I had this problem with my tangs also. Try to make sure they are both
well fed (maybe add something to graze on like greenleaf, at different
parts of the tank). It will stop in a few days. Also if you are ever
thinking about another tang it is my opinion to add it now. That way
not just one tang feels the aggression of the original. Jeff ------------- Jeff Rasmussen |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 11:19pm
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I used a stick (I've done this before) to let a Yellow Tang know that a new Purple Tang was not to be bullied. After 7 days the YT allowed the PT to come out of the corner for more than just a brief foray. Now a month later, they get along, ...most of the time. At least the damage they did to each other, frayed fins and scraped bodies, has healed. Those peduncle scalpels are amazing weapons. In your tank, the YT sees the Naso as a threat to it's food supply. Extra large feedings will help the Naso to keep it's strength during this time and the YT may come to learn that there is enough food for the two of them. It's also helpful if you offer a variety of foods: lots of live algae, meaty foods, algae based flake foods and Nori. ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member 
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Posted By: stephan
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 12:45am
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Thanks. It's always a tense time for me when I first put new fish in. Funny
how much I worry about it really. Another thing I did was rearrange the rocks. I had heard that that decreases the feeling of ownership for the fish that was already in there becuase things are new for him too. Is this a myth? I had wanted to rearrange a bit anyway and add some LBTR that I collected. Once again thanks to the WMAS message board for good directions on where to get it. I'll feed them a bit more than normal for a while. My Yellow Tang never took to eating Nori or Romaine, but readily eats flakes out of my hand. Can you train them to eat that stuff somehow? ------------- Stephan Lovstedt Camarillo, CA 65 Gallon Glass |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 9:22am
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When they get hungry enough they will eat anything. ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
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Posted By: reydavid
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 3:00pm
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I've always been told that a yellow tang is the last fish to add because they are very terratorial about newcomers, esepcially fish of a similar size. Be careful there is not a lot of new stress introduced because it can cause other problems! I've found that rearraging the rocks helps, create a spec for each...and watch carefully for any signs of real stress that could precipitate a real problem. |
Posted By: rhymechizel
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 3:36pm
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I used the stick idea with my yellow tang. When I added the first fish with my yellow tang it took a few days of me chasing the yellow away with the stick. Then I added a powder blue and a regal tang and it only took a few minutes with the stick and the yellow left them alone. ------------- 120g up an running in Spanish Fork. |
Posted By: stephan
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 5:45pm
What do you mean create a spec? It seems like things have mellowed out a bit. The yellow is still definitely watching him and kind of following him around, but not trying to stab him anymore. The Naso doesn't seem to be eating other than grazing on the rocks. Food floats right past him and he sort of moves toward it but then never gets it. Either he has poor depth perception or he's just disinterested ------------- Stephan Lovstedt Camarillo, CA 65 Gallon Glass |
reydavid wrote:Posted By: rhymechizel
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 6:46pm
I had a great Naso tang I bought a few months back. He was a little skinny at first but he soon fattened up and ate a ton. Then my father inlaw decided to feed him pond fish food. My naso bloated and died that night. Sad sad day. ------------- 120g up an running in Spanish Fork. |
Posted By: stephan
Date Posted: November 05 2005 at 7:39pm
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That Naso hasn't been eating. He was grazing on the rocks, but never the
food I put in. Last 2 days he's been hiding in a cave most all day. I tried Formula 1 flakes (which is the preferred food of my other Tang) and Nori. I'm just worried that he'll waste away. Should I try anything else- other foods or feeding methods? Any ideas would be appreciated. ------------- Stephan Lovstedt Camarillo, CA 65 Gallon Glass |
Posted By: jeffras
Date Posted: November 05 2005 at 8:05pm
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My tangs love to graze on romaine. It is
easy to rubberband a leaf to a small rock and let the tangs graze for a
few days. It isn't the healthiest but it is better then starving. When
things settle down you can feed as normal. ------------- Jeff Rasmussen |
Posted By: Imafishfreak
Date Posted: November 06 2005 at 11:49am
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I just caught my yellow tang and threw it in my sump for awhile because it was picking on my new powder blue tang. can't have a $20 fish picking on a $70 fish. I have a blonde naso that Ive had for almost two years "awesome fish" all my fish love brine shrimp soaked in garlic |
Posted By: Shane H
Date Posted: November 06 2005 at 1:50pm
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Stephan,
You need to entice the naso to eat soon. You may try using a clip to hang some romaine or better yet, some nori in the tank. This gives the naso the opportunity to get at the food even if the other fish are competing. I have lost several naso tangs and the behavoir you're describing is identifal to those that have not made it. Good luck. |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: November 06 2005 at 2:55pm
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Have you been soaking some frozen meaty food in a few drops of garlic oil? ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
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Posted By: stephan
Date Posted: November 07 2005 at 10:08am
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No. I don't have any frozen meaty foods. I will go get some today. Garlic
oil too I guess. ------------- Stephan Lovstedt Camarillo, CA 65 Gallon Glass |
Posted By: stephan
Date Posted: November 07 2005 at 10:57pm
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The brine shrimp coaxed him out for a bit and he ate. Hopefully things
improve. ------------- Stephan Lovstedt Camarillo, CA 65 Gallon Glass |
Posted By: Shane H
Date Posted: November 07 2005 at 11:39pm
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That is a very good sign!
Is he grazing yet? I would still hang some nori in the tank so that he can eat regularly. |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 10:40pm
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No frozen foods!
Please take some time to learn more about this hobby, before you buy another item for your aquarium. Thank you. ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
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Posted By: stephan
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 11:07pm
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"No frozen foods!?" Are you saying that the fact that I didn't have any on
hand would suggest that I am insufficiently prepared to keep fish? I really thought I was. I've had most of my fish for over a year now and all I ever fed them was flakes. They survived a 12 hour drive from CA when I moved here and seem pretty happy and healthy. The yellow tang has only ever eaten flakes and thought that the Naso would eat the same. From what I had read and been told at the fish store I thought I was prepared to bring the Naso into the aquarium and would not have done so without asking lots of questions first. I am learning more about the hobby lately in large part because of the WMAS. So thanks for everyone's advice and all the questions and answers you've posted in the past. I spend lots of time reading the old ones. The Naso is still very lethargic. I've seperated the yellow tang from it. Mark- having trouble with this last fish is stressful and makes me not want to get another new fish soon. But eventually I will. Do you have any specific suggestions on what I might learn about before getting another item for my aquarium responsibly. ------------- Stephan Lovstedt Camarillo, CA 65 Gallon Glass |
Posted By: Imafishfreak
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 11:38pm
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I say if your fish won't eat brine shrimp soaked in garlic its probaly a goner ------------- I swear dear, I didnt buy any more corals, they just multiplied! 235g. acrylic reef tank Danny syracuse, Ut. |
Posted By: Imafishfreak
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 11:44pm
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The diet of my fish is about 3/4 frozen and the rest is pellets or flakes. I believe flakes or pellets will pollute your aquarium faster as well.
------------- I swear dear, I didnt buy any more corals, they just multiplied! 235g. acrylic reef tank Danny syracuse, Ut. |
Posted By: KeoDog
Date Posted: November 09 2005 at 8:02am
Mark, I almost never feed frozen food. (the last time was probably a year ago) I feed flakes once a day. I supplement my tangs with nori or caulerpa about once a week. I must be a bad person. ------------- Kevin Kunz (Sandy, UT) 300g reef "A trade by which one gains and the other loses is a fraud." Ayn Rand |
but I do get comments all the time how healthy my fish look. disclaimer: If I remeber I might add cyclopeez about every 2 weeks.