Is this Setosa?
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Topic: Is this Setosa?
Posted By: Indu
Subject: Is this Setosa?
Date Posted: April 02 2015 at 10:47am
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Is this a setosa? If so, is it tyree setosa? Thanks Indu  |
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Posted By: BobC63
Date Posted: April 02 2015 at 10:57am
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A little hard to tell, this photo looks more like Montipora Capricornus to me
Is it a mostly thin, flat "plate" of coral?
And "Tyree" is just a name of a specific grower. No way to know unless you know where you got it from ------------- - My Current Tank: 65g Starfire (sitting empty for 2+ years) - * Marine & Reef tanks since 1977 * |
Posted By: Indu
Date Posted: April 02 2015 at 11:00am
| No, I have a separate monti that is thin and plating. This is not like that. This one is encrusting. |
Posted By: BobC63
Date Posted: April 02 2015 at 11:09am
Does it look more like this, up close - as far as 'texture' of the coral goes?
 ------------- - My Current Tank: 65g Starfire (sitting empty for 2+ years) - * Marine & Reef tanks since 1977 * |
Posted By: Indu
Date Posted: April 02 2015 at 11:10am
| yes, will try to get a better picture. |
Posted By: BobC63
Date Posted: April 02 2015 at 11:12am
Than that is a Setosa  ------------- - My Current Tank: 65g Starfire (sitting empty for 2+ years) - * Marine & Reef tanks since 1977 * |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: April 02 2015 at 11:39am
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The coral posted is not a setosa. I can pull out my species ID books tonight and give you a good guess, but it's probably not capricornis either. As mentioned, if you don't have lineage pointing back to Tyree, it's not a Tyree. ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: Indu
Date Posted: April 02 2015 at 3:49pm
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Thanks ReefdUp, it will be great if you can ID it. Thanks Indu
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Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: April 02 2015 at 4:49pm
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It does not look like M. setosa to me either. It could be M. undata or M. hodgesoni, or maybe even M. nodosa. Coral in aquaria often grow strangely different depending on light, flow, nutrient levels and nearby tank mates.  P.S. A bit of trivia. Steve Tyree pre-dates the ORA company. He is an awesome hobbyist that started making money on some of the new varieties of coral that he acquired, grew and offered for sale at exorbitant prices. He just might be the originator of the marketing concept of giving coral cool sounding names to get more money for them. ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member 
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Posted By: tileman
Date Posted: April 02 2015 at 7:11pm
Setosa grows in almost a branching form. ------------- 335G Reef TOTM. http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2015/2/aquarium ReefKeepers TOTM Feb. 2012 http://reefkeeping.com/joomla/index....k-of-the-month & |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: April 02 2015 at 7:16pm
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Ok, now that I have my book... M. hodgsoni is out since the OP's coral doesn't have nearly the coenosteum ridges. M. undata is definitely out due to no tuberculae ridges. M. nodosa is definitely out due to no fused thecal papillae. As Mark mentioned, corals grow depending on the local conditions. I usually like to ID corals when they reach about 6". Montipora and Acropora are the hardest genus to identify to the species level. It could be M. capricornis as Bob mentioned (sorry, I was on my phone earlier and couldn't see enough detail). It may also be M. florida. I'm guessing it won't encrust much longer - it'll probably start plating here soon. It doesn't appear to be one of the true encrusting species. ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: Indu
Date Posted: April 03 2015 at 9:00am
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It doesn't exactly look like the picture tileman posted. Thank you ReefdUp. It has been in the tank right from the beginning (about 8 months). I am still trying to get a better picture. Will post as soon as I can. Thanks
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Posted By: BobC63
Date Posted: April 03 2015 at 9:08am
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I had an Orange Cap that started out covering - almost 'encrusting' - the rock it was on before it started plating out horizontally.
Looked alot like your photo, Indu ------------- - My Current Tank: 65g Starfire (sitting empty for 2+ years) - * Marine & Reef tanks since 1977 * |
Posted By: Indu
Date Posted: April 04 2015 at 10:40am
Managed to get some more pictures.   |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: April 04 2015 at 10:04pm
Very interesting. How much of that is growth since it's been in your tank? Toward the bottom it seems to be growing like M. capricornis but older growth(?) comes stretching out in almost random shape as if it were Hydnophora. Some parts remind me of M. undata gone wild.  I'm curious to know if it has been in the same spot the entire time, what is the flow like there and last and perhaps most important, what coral is upstream that might be sending out chemicals to make it grow that way? Aloha, Mark ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
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Posted By: juanjose
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 10:06pm
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my opinion, not worth much but.. lol its just a motipora frag that is growing weird. possibly cut and glued ridiculously by whom ever fragged it. and lighting can cause weird things to happen. ------------- Turning lemonaid into lemons since 1994. |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: April 23 2015 at 6:05am
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There are what looks like many vermetid snail tubes in the photos. They will cause a lot of that odd growth. I think in 6 months it'll look like a normal plating monti. ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: Indu
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 10:00am
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I bet you are right. I will let everyone know how it turns out in a few months. This has been in the tank when we bought it about 8-9 months ago. Thanks Indu
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