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Topic: Unhappy SPS (New Pics Added)
Posted By: thathiep
Subject: Unhappy SPS (New Pics Added)
Date Posted: December 02 2012 at 8:05pm
For the past month some of my SPSs stared to show signs of distress.  It's started with my green tenuis, green slimmer, and now my red planet.  White strings discharged from the corals. It's doing this twice or three times per day.  The corals faded more and more in the last two weeks, less polyps extension, and some area bleached white.  I tried waters change and calibrated my tests result at The Aquarium.  I upgraded my skimmer three months ago and added a carbon reactor three weeks ago.  Tank is 65g with 25g sump.  What can I do to help my corals turn around? 

My water parameters are as follow:
Ca 400
Alk 10
Mag 1300
Sa 1.024

Thank you,

Duy



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Posted By: BillyC
Date Posted: December 02 2012 at 8:50pm
Pics? What kind if lights and how old are the bulbs?


Posted By: DLindquist
Date Posted: December 02 2012 at 9:31pm
What type of Carbon are you using?

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Posted By: badfinger
Date Posted: December 02 2012 at 9:50pm
Have you tested for nitrates and phosphates? If not hit me up duy and bring over a sample and I can test them for you


Posted By: rwgoose
Date Posted: December 02 2012 at 9:53pm
also check your ph.. i was having some problems with my sps as well.. tested everything. all alk, mag, and cal were great. so i went to lfs and tested po4, trites and trates.. all 0.. it was my ph at a 7.1!! 
just my thoughts!


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Posted By: reefnfeef
Date Posted: December 02 2012 at 10:23pm
Originally posted by DLindquist DLindquist wrote:

What type of Carbon are you using?

+1. Do you rinse your carbon well before you add it to the reactor?

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Posted By: thathiep
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 11:26pm

To answer the questions.

 I will get some pics up later.  Retrofit LET lighting with 6 ATI bulbs from reefgeek, bulbs is roughly 16 months old. 

I'm running lignite carbon from BRS with the reactor for three weeks now, prior I used unknown carbon bought from a member on the board.  I rinsed about three minutes with the lignite carbon.

Nitrates and phosphates both zero.  Good point, I will check the PH level.  

My tank is populated with fish a corals that's why I upgraded to a bigger skimmer and added a reactor.  I think a bigger skimmer and a reactor socked the corals with clearer and cleaner water.  What do you guys think?

Thanks guys,

Duy

 



Posted By: Dionysus
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 11:28pm
I would change your bulbs that's old for t5s

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Posted By: phys
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 11:41pm
look for the things you changed just before you saw the issues... Its possible that running more skimming and different carbon at the same time changed the water chemistry in ways that you dont test and they hated it. maybe slow the carbon and skimming down a little if thats what you changed. You washed all the equipment before putting it in your system? if not, there may have been chemicals on the plastics or in the materials that also caused some problems...


Posted By: BillyC
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 11:46pm
Change your bulbs. When you do you need to acclimate your corals again to your new bulbs.


Posted By: Akira
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 3:07am

+1 to all ! My guess is lamps also as they have lost their spectrum . As Billy stated make sure to adjust your time for new lamps .



Posted By: thathiep
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 2:55pm
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Posted By: thathiep
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 2:56pm
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Posted By: thathiep
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 2:56pm
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Posted By: thathiep
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 3:09pm
Thank you for all the inputs.  I will order new bulbs in soon.  As you can see the white strings and bleached out from the green slimmer in the first pic.  Second pic is the Tenuis also showing signs of stress and bleached out.  Third pic is a full tank shot for reference.  I bought the blue tang from quarter size and now he's around 5'.  My tank is overloaded with corals and some fish starting to outgrow my tank.  

Thanks

Duy


Posted By: builderofdreams
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 8:25pm
Is it possible they are Killing each other?

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Posted By: thathiep
Date Posted: December 06 2012 at 2:42pm
Originally posted by builderofdreams builderofdreams wrote:

Is it possible they are Killing each other?

That's the concern I have when some corals grow over each other.  The reason I added a carbon reactor to help alleviate chemical warfare between them.     


Posted By: badfinger
Date Posted: December 06 2012 at 2:56pm
Wow duy, gorgeous tank.... been a few years since I have been over to see it


Posted By: phys
Date Posted: December 06 2012 at 3:06pm
Do you have any LPS that are extending tentacles out at night and stinging them? I just had a stag start to lose a ton of tissue because it was to close to a xenia. That may be another reason.


Posted By: Will Spencer
Date Posted: December 06 2012 at 3:11pm
I don't know what your dosing regimen is like, but at Tuesday's meeting our speak, Aviad, from Red Sea talked about how important trace elements are.  Of course he suggested use of the Red Sea Testing and dosing line of products since he designed them, but he also said any well know brand should have a good trace element additive.  He likes his plan because it is set up so that when you add X amount of Calcium you add X/10 amount of the trace element to keep everything properly balance.

Just a thought.


Posted By: DLindquist
Date Posted: December 06 2012 at 6:21pm
Originally posted by Will Spencer Will Spencer wrote:

I don't know what your dosing regimen is like, but at Tuesday's meeting our speak, Aviad, from Red Sea talked about how important trace elements are.  Of course he suggested use of the Red Sea Testing and dosing line of products since he designed them, but he also said any well know brand should have a good trace element additive.  He likes his plan because it is set up so that when you add X amount of Calcium you add X/10 amount of the trace element to keep everything properly balance.

Just a thought.




Another benefit of regular water changes, in my opinion.

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Posted By: Teknik777
Date Posted: December 06 2012 at 7:04pm
Dosing fuel has a lot of trace elements. Also I spy a rbta close that will sting and kill your acros..

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Posted By: thathiep
Date Posted: December 07 2012 at 2:57pm

Thanks Chad, It's been a while.

 I have some LPSs that are close to some of my SPSs.  I have seen my SPSs got stung from time to time but it an ongoing problem with a small tank with overgrown corals.  I don't see any color differentiation in the past until recently.  That rose anemone is a wanderer; it stays in that spot for a few days now.

 I'm using seachem products to dose my Alk, Cal, and Mag right now but will switch over to BRS when I'm out.  I also dose Fuel and Iodine once a week but only haft the suggested amount. 

 Every other week with water changes.

 Thanks

 Duy

 



Posted By: thathiep
Date Posted: December 12 2012 at 12:35am
Got new bulbs today, acclimated well over an hour.  I'm hoping new bulbs will fix the issue some of my SPSs is having.  Got some pics with an iphone just before the light when out.  

Current tank shot will new bulbs and cleaned glass Big smile
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Thank you for the suggestions and help.

Duy


Posted By: DLindquist
Date Posted: December 12 2012 at 7:29am
You acclimated your coral to the new lights for a whole hour? Am I understanding that statement correctly? How is that even done? This is generally done over a couple weeks time. Keep a close eye on things. Watch for any signs of bleaching. Pics look great!

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Posted By: builderofdreams
Date Posted: December 12 2012 at 8:58am
Originally posted by DLindquist DLindquist wrote:

You acclimated your coral to the new lights for a whole hour? Am I understanding that statement correctly? How is that even done? This is generally done over a couple weeks time. Keep a close eye on things. Watch for any signs of bleaching. Pics look great!
Agreed: Nothing ever good is accomplished fast to theses systems. Tank looks fantastic.


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Posted By: thathiep
Date Posted: December 12 2012 at 11:57am
Originally posted by builderofdreams builderofdreams wrote:


Originally posted by DLindquist DLindquist wrote:

You acclimated your coral to the new lights for a whole hour? Am I understanding that statement correctly? How is that even done? This is generally done over a couple weeks time. Keep a close eye on things. Watch for any signs of bleaching. Pics look great!

Agreed: Nothing ever good is accomplished fast to theses systems. Tank looks fantastic.


Yes, you're right. I'll slow down the acclimation process and watch for signs of bleaching.
Thank you,
Duy


Posted By: Akira
Date Posted: June 06 2013 at 3:13am
Was just curious as I just came across this post again. Have any updated pics? When I change lamps its a several week process.....


Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: June 06 2013 at 5:04pm
Beautiful tank Duy!

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Posted By: thathiep
Date Posted: June 07 2013 at 12:22am
Thanks Mike.  Good to see you back.

Duy


Posted By: thathiep
Date Posted: August 20 2013 at 6:57pm
Originally posted by Akira Akira wrote:

Was just curious as I just came across this post again. Have any updated pics? When I change lamps its a several week process.....


Here you go.  Have some issues with calcium in the past month.  Things are under control now.  The SPS are much happier but still need time to color up to it potential.  


Duy


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Posted By: Trevor40
Date Posted: August 20 2013 at 7:23pm
Amazing growth!!!

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Posted By: sabeypets
Date Posted: August 20 2013 at 10:51pm
Impressive Duy!

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Posted By: thathiep
Date Posted: September 01 2013 at 2:37pm
Thanks guys.



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