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Topic: Vitamin C dosing
Posted By: Aquaristnewbie
Subject: Vitamin C dosing
Date Posted: September 21 2011 at 4:08pm
Trying this out to see if it will help out some palys that lost their color. Here are some quick crappy before pics. I am starting at the dose for 5ppm and working my way up. I will try to update this as I go along.


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150 gallon Reef
Millcreek Utah




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Posted By: Laird
Date Posted: September 21 2011 at 5:16pm
I've dosed it for two years now. I think it makes a huge difference to the health of zoas and fish. Whenever a fish or zoa starts to look sick I just dose more and it always seems to help tremendously.

What brand are you using?

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Indefinite hiatus from sw aquariums.

Once I have my glorious return I'll set back up the following.
50 Gallon rimless cube.
180 Gallons mixed reef paradise


Posted By: Aquaristnewbie
Date Posted: September 21 2011 at 5:28pm
GNC. What do you use?

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150 gallon Reef
Millcreek Utah



Posted By: BillyC
Date Posted: September 21 2011 at 5:38pm
I would be extremely careful about which type of vitamin c you are using. Regular ascorbic acid has a ph of about 4 and can lead to problems. What exactly are you using?


Posted By: Aquaristnewbie
Date Posted: September 21 2011 at 5:41pm
asorbic acid like the one from that link I read up on just GNC brand. I will keep an eye on my pH and make sure all is going well. I dosed it like they had down and was worried about that. Do you use the exact one from the link?

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150 gallon Reef
Millcreek Utah



Posted By: ksmart
Date Posted: September 21 2011 at 6:07pm
Can you post the link here? Maybe this is something I ought to try, I've always had a hard time keeping zoas.

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Posted By: Laird
Date Posted: September 21 2011 at 6:32pm
Yes, I've always just used the IHerb buffered brand.   I started off being super exact with the dosing, now I just dump some in every other day with my top off water.   

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Indefinite hiatus from sw aquariums.

Once I have my glorious return I'll set back up the following.
50 Gallon rimless cube.
180 Gallons mixed reef paradise


Posted By: Aquaristnewbie
Date Posted: September 21 2011 at 6:40pm
I may just buy some iherb buffered brand to be safe

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150 gallon Reef
Millcreek Utah



Posted By: Snowsrfr
Date Posted: September 21 2011 at 9:04pm
I just got my shipment from iHerb today, and hope to start dosing my polyp tank tomorrow.


Posted By: Snowsrfr
Date Posted: September 21 2011 at 9:07pm
Anybody who is doing this, take before and after pics too!


Posted By: bstuver
Date Posted: September 21 2011 at 9:15pm
I have a ton of zoas I think I will try this too:-)

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Jackie Stuver

"wait these aren't the happy Hawaiians oompa doompa godly heaven on your face zoas?   I dont want them then. lol!" Ksmart


Posted By: Snowsrfr
Date Posted: September 21 2011 at 9:47pm
Must read for those considering VC dosing IMO. If you order from iHerb make sure to use the $5 off coupon.

http://www.reef2reef.com/forums/zoa-discussion-club-zoa/8931-vitamin-c-dosing-i-am-clueless.html - http://www.reef2reef.com/forums/zoa-discussion-club-zoa/8931-vitamin-c-dosing-i-am-clueless.html


Posted By: Aquaristnewbie
Date Posted: September 21 2011 at 10:03pm
Just ordered the stuff off of iHerb. the stuff I have is the same but not buffered so thanks for the heads up guys

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150 gallon Reef
Millcreek Utah



Posted By: BillyC
Date Posted: September 21 2011 at 11:26pm
Nice. Your corals will be glad you did!


Posted By: fishnfresh
Date Posted: September 21 2011 at 11:41pm
starting this also. read a bunch of things on it. I am losing a good number of zoas in my zoa dominate tank. got zoa pox and some pulled out some didnt.Hope this will help.


Posted By: Laird
Date Posted: September 22 2011 at 9:17am
Here is a fraction of my zoas. Everything grown from pretty small frags and I've sold countless frags from them all.





Purple hornets, marry janes, Captain America, CARs closed up in the background










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Indefinite hiatus from sw aquariums.

Once I have my glorious return I'll set back up the following.
50 Gallon rimless cube.
180 Gallons mixed reef paradise


Posted By: ksmart
Date Posted: September 22 2011 at 12:44pm
wow Laird! Im going to try this too!

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Posted By: ksmart
Date Posted: September 22 2011 at 12:45pm
Nick I thought that everything in your tank was looking good already, excited to see what this does!

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Posted By: Aquaristnewbie
Date Posted: September 22 2011 at 1:47pm
Thanks.   We willvsee what happens.   Hopefully only good stuff

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150 gallon Reef
Millcreek Utah



Posted By: Snowsrfr
Date Posted: September 22 2011 at 10:33pm
Just started dosing today. Got my before pics. Now hopefully for some great after pics.


Posted By: ksmart
Date Posted: September 30 2011 at 4:37pm
Update: Ive been dosing vit C for a week now and I have a colony, and half of the polpys have been closed up for a few weeks and were shrinking and I noticed last night that they started opening back up... Cant wait to see what happens in a few more weeks.

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Posted By: Aquaristnewbie
Date Posted: September 30 2011 at 4:46pm
Thats great! I have been dosing and have not noticed any considerable changes except things are starting to color up better. I will take some new pics soon and maybe there is more than I see. One plus is my skimmer seems to be working awesome. It is pulling the same amount out of my tank but it is a lot darker and gunkier than usual so seems like it is pulling a lot more crap out than normal. Have not noticed any ill effects of dosing so I am continuing it.

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150 gallon Reef
Millcreek Utah



Posted By: ksmart
Date Posted: September 30 2011 at 5:42pm
well honestly Nick when I was there I thought your zoas were looking good! If this Vit C really does end up helping I'd love to make another trip out to your house with some $ to buy some frags :) fingers crossed!

Noticed that my skimmer has been pulling out some darker gunk too, I dont have any buffered vit c and before I started dosing, my ph and alk were low so I started buffering to raise those up, im sure that is helping too.

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Posted By: Aquaristnewbie
Date Posted: September 30 2011 at 5:48pm
Thank you. Im sure it is helping adding buffer. Do you make your own buffer or pay for it? Just started using homeade and it works great for a fraction of the cost. Your welcome anytime let me know when you want to stop by.

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150 gallon Reef
Millcreek Utah



Posted By: ksmart
Date Posted: September 30 2011 at 5:51pm
I bought some last year that I didnt end up using for very long, so I've been bustin that out. Once Its out ill for sure want to look into some home made. Where did you find out how to make the home made?

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Posted By: Aquaristnewbie
Date Posted: September 30 2011 at 5:55pm
I think it was from melevs. Super easy. Bake 2 1/2 cups baking soda on a cookie sheet at 300 or more for an hour and mix it in a gallon of water and your done.

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150 gallon Reef
Millcreek Utah



Posted By: ehender634
Date Posted: October 20 2011 at 7:38am
Snowsrfr, do you have an update on how the Vit C is working for you? I ordered some also, but would love to know if it is really working or not. If so what is your dosing schedule? 

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180 gal mixed reef


Posted By: bstuver
Date Posted: October 20 2011 at 3:17pm
I started dosing about the same time as Bret, and my polyps are more open than they ever have been. I try to dose 1/4 tsp during the day and the same after lights out. My tank is 60 g

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Jackie Stuver

"wait these aren't the happy Hawaiians oompa doompa godly heaven on your face zoas?   I dont want them then. lol!" Ksmart


Posted By: ksmart
Date Posted: October 20 2011 at 3:52pm
Ive stopped doing this week. I lost a fish (dont think its related to the vit c) but although I'm seeing some improvements in one of my colonies, some off my other corals are looking upset. I was dosing without running carbon. Next week I'll probably start dosing at a lower level and keep the carbon in...

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Posted By: bstuver
Date Posted: October 20 2011 at 9:14pm
Hmm my carbon could use changing and my corals all look happy.

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Jackie Stuver

"wait these aren't the happy Hawaiians oompa doompa godly heaven on your face zoas?   I dont want them then. lol!" Ksmart


Posted By: Snowsrfr
Date Posted: October 20 2011 at 9:43pm
I started dosing in my Biocube polyp garden at 1/8tsp, and started getting good results, but then got greedy and bumped it up to 1/4tsp. Noticed an overall decrease in color and happiness of my polys, so I dropped back down to 1/4tsp and I'm getting some great color increase, and some of my frags are starting to take off with baby polyps popping up.

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"A fish tank is not a pet. It's a TV that you gotta feed." - John Caparulo


Posted By: fishnfresh
Date Posted: October 20 2011 at 11:57pm
I did this in my redsea max and wasnt using a skimmer and ended up with a mess. I know bret also aint running a skimmer but I was doin 1/4 tsp. Im tryin to get tank back in order then will start again when I get a skimmer and also only 1/8 tsp


Posted By: Aquaristnewbie
Date Posted: October 22 2011 at 3:43pm
I will try posting pics soon. I have been dosing a full teaspoon a day in my 65. Seems like I am getting pretty good growth but I definitely am noticing better colors. I dose when I feed my tank. Still going well for me. But from what everyone is dosing I may cut back on how much I am using.

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150 gallon Reef
Millcreek Utah



Posted By: ehender634
Date Posted: November 14 2011 at 7:50am
So I just wanted to give an update on my tank. I was dosing 2 tsp 2X/day in my 200 gal system for 2 weeks. I really didn't notice any changes in my zoas and all my sps started to die in spots. 

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180 gal mixed reef


Posted By: Laird
Date Posted: November 14 2011 at 11:06am
Originally posted by ehender634 ehender634 wrote:

So I just wanted to give an update on my tank. I was dosing 2 tsp 2X/day in my 200 gal system for 2 weeks. I really didn't notice any changes in my zoas and all my sps started to die in spots. 


You started dosing that much from day one?

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Indefinite hiatus from sw aquariums.

Once I have my glorious return I'll set back up the following.
50 Gallon rimless cube.
180 Gallons mixed reef paradise


Posted By: bstuver
Date Posted: November 14 2011 at 4:47pm
When I dosed my zoas were looking amazing but my sps started to die as well.

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Jackie Stuver

"wait these aren't the happy Hawaiians oompa doompa godly heaven on your face zoas?   I dont want them then. lol!" Ksmart


Posted By: BillyC
Date Posted: November 14 2011 at 5:36pm
Weird... I've been dosing for a few months and my sps is looking better than ever


Posted By: bstuver
Date Posted: November 14 2011 at 5:52pm
Hmm maybe I should try again. The only one I had a problem with was the hydnophora colony and it may have been just from moving from another tank.

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Jackie Stuver

"wait these aren't the happy Hawaiians oompa doompa godly heaven on your face zoas?   I dont want them then. lol!" Ksmart


Posted By: Snowsrfr
Date Posted: November 14 2011 at 5:57pm
Originally posted by ehender634 ehender634 wrote:

Snowsrfr, do you have an update on how the Vit C is working for you? I ordered some also, but would love to know if it is really working or not. If so what is your dosing schedule? 


Life has reared it's ugly head, and I have been content with just maintaining my tanks and keeping things alive.

This weekend I installed my Aquaticlife skimmer in my cube, cuz I forgot the part where it's recommended to run a skimmer when dosing VC. I believe it was Friday or Saturday that I got the skimmer installed and VC dosing started again. I'm dosing 1/8tsp, twice daily on my 29 Biocube. I'll take some before pics, hopefully tonight, but have already seen a dramatic color explosion in my Poinsettia polyp.

Edit: I just got done looking over all my different polyps in my "frag" tank. Since Saturday this is the new things that have happened since a steady VC dosing regimen.

Pumpkin Nightmares have a new baby polyp

JF Crazy Ladies have a bulge in the mat where a baby is about to come out.

Poinsettia is getting it's bright red color (as stated above)

Magician paly - 1 of 3 heads have opened up. All 3 have been closed for over a week.

I'm trying to get before pics, what I've noticed since Saturday, etc. but my snails and crabs have ESP when it comes to me wanting to take pics and have crawled over 90% of my polyps.

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"A fish tank is not a pet. It's a TV that you gotta feed." - John Caparulo


Posted By: ehender634
Date Posted: November 16 2011 at 7:41am
I started my dosing at 1/2 tsp 2X/day and doubled it every 4 days util I got to 2 tsp 2X/day

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180 gal mixed reef


Posted By: philhender
Date Posted: November 16 2011 at 10:43am
well, I'll bite, ordered mine from iherb too, what was referenced in the other sites threads: http://www.iherb.com/nutribiotic-sodium-ascorbate-crystalline-powder-16-oz-454-g/10178?at=0 used the code VUX880 to get $5.00 for a new order... less than $10 before shipping. 

Got my hopes up... Time will tell. :D


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I asked the Lord for the blessing of Patience... he gave me 6 kids!

125g Reef / 55g Sump-Fuge


Posted By: ptronsp
Date Posted: November 16 2011 at 11:55am
Troy and I also ordered some and we started dosing for about a week now in our rimless, we shall see.
Pam

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The only clowns I like are in my tank!





Posted By: sabeypets
Date Posted: November 16 2011 at 5:50pm
Be careful, I dosed for 10 days lost 3 birds nests colonies (the one colony was about 2 years old). several other sps started dieing back in spots, xenia stopped pulsing and looked bad.

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Shaun
American Fork
"Would you leave a dead cat in your kitchen till tommorow?" Builderofdreams


Posted By: BillyC
Date Posted: November 18 2011 at 3:33pm
Originally posted by sabeypets sabeypets wrote:

Be careful, I dosed for 10 days lost 3 birds nests colonies (the one colony was about 2 years old). several other sps started dieing back in spots, xenia stopped pulsing and looked bad.


Wow sorry to hear that Shaun. How much were you dosing? And we're you using the buffered VC?


Posted By: Laird
Date Posted: November 18 2011 at 3:55pm
Ive never lost any sps from it but I dose a very small amount.

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Indefinite hiatus from sw aquariums.

Once I have my glorious return I'll set back up the following.
50 Gallon rimless cube.
180 Gallons mixed reef paradise



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