UGH... why
Printed From: Utah Reefs
Category: Specialized Discussion
Forum Name: Softies
Forum Description: This is the place to ask questions soft corals.
URL: http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47090
Printed Date: November 28 2024 at 12:20am
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 12.03 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: UGH... why
Posted By: ptronsp
Subject: UGH... why
Date Posted: February 24 2011 at 6:47pm
|
Would my (blue) snowflake cloves be dying off? I got a nice rock full of them and they are dying off quickly. I have one in my tank and one in my daughter tank and they are both dying!! Everything else is doing just fine. I also have another rock that has some snowflake cloves on it and they are doing fine??? Any ideas? Pam |
Replies:
Posted By: Roosterfx
Date Posted: February 24 2011 at 8:01pm
| I had a fairly large colony and it started to die off in a small area and within two days it spread like an infection and the whole colony died off. I have no idea why, everything else in the tank was doing great. The only thing I could think of was some of my Pom Pom laid over on it during the night and some how stung it. Not sure if thats even possible, I thought xienia was peaceful. |
Posted By: bstuver
Date Posted: February 24 2011 at 8:12pm
|
I have had the same thing I had a couple rocks with tons on them and they just started to die. I now only have a couple small sections of them. ------------- Jackie Stuver "wait these aren't the happy Hawaiians oompa doompa godly heaven on your face zoas? I dont want them then. lol!" Ksmart |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: February 24 2011 at 9:08pm
The first occurrences of aquarium coral dieing en masse was first noticed about 15 years ago. Any guesses on what coral it was? ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member 
|
Posted By: boysty
Date Posted: February 24 2011 at 9:12pm
|
SPS colonies? ------------- Time waits on no one |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: February 24 2011 at 9:37pm
|
Good guess, but Nope. Try again. Most coral die when some water parameter has gone lower than needed or higher than safe, but this coral was dieing off in all kinds of different conditions and for a while it was thought to be a seasonal thing. Here's a clue. It was an article in an old Sea Star. ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
|
Posted By: ptronsp
Date Posted: February 24 2011 at 10:43pm
| Blue snowflake cloves?? LOL |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 8:02am
 Try again. There are lot's of good articles in the Sea Star Newsletters, like the one about the male <-> female relationships between Peppermint Shrimp and Anglerfish. ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
|
Posted By: Jeremyw
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 11:20am
|
oh come on every one you should all know this! We all have a hard time with it! XENIA! ------------- Next meeting: |
Posted By: ptronsp
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 2:38pm
|
Our big tank we cannot keep it alive. In my daughters tank it goes crazy. Does it have anything to do with how clean the tank is? I have heard the dirtier the tank the better xenia does? Maybe my tank is too clean for the snowflake cloves? |
Posted By: Nick801
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 2:48pm
|
I would have to argue the too clean part =)
------------- http://www.reefinsanity.com" rel="nofollow - www.ReefInsanity.com http://www.facebook.com/ReefInsanity" rel="nofollow - www.Facebook.com/ReefInsanity 801-680-4676 |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 4:46pm
Yep, Xenia.  Even though Xenia is not an Anthellia Species like the Snowflake, they are both sensitive to some conditions we don't fully understand. If anyone is interested here is the article "Lessons of Xenia" http://www.utahreefs.com/SeaStar/wmasSeaStarJn00.pdf - http://www.utahreefs.com/SeaStar/wmasSeaStarJn00.pdf ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
|
Posted By: Jeremyw
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 4:49pm
|
Do I win something mark ;) ------------- Next meeting: |
Posted By: ptronsp
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 4:57pm
| You know this is really interesting because the guy we got this from said he had noticed at times it would just die off for not apparent reason and then come back. Very interesting. Thanks for the info/ |
Posted By: jwoo
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 4:58pm
My Xenia grows awesome in my tank. My tanks water is clean enough to wash your dishes on! I seriously have zero trates and phosphates (carbon dose). And it does better then awesome. It's a freaking weed! ------------- None at the moment Soon: 72 Gallon Bowfront |
ptronsp wrote:Posted By: ptronsp
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 5:02pm
| Very interesting Jwoo. |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 10:14pm
|
Jeremy, how about a frag of Blue Snowflake Anthellia or a frag of Pom Pom Xenia. The Xenia is from Justins tank.
------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
|
Posted By: jwoo
Date Posted: February 26 2011 at 12:14am
Hahaha. He originally gave me the Anthellia I gave you! How are all those frags doing anyway Mark? My Xenia is looking like it's needing trimming again in another 2-3 weeks. Hope it's doing well for you! ------------- None at the moment Soon: 72 Gallon Bowfront |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: February 26 2011 at 8:58am
|
It's all doing great. Several pieces have attached. A couple pieces melted as expected. The pieces that are still stubbornly refusing to attach I leave in the center rubble zone where they don't get blown away. They will attach eventually. Thanks, I would like more. ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
|
Posted By: Jeremyw
Date Posted: February 26 2011 at 1:21pm
|
oh oh oh i gave justing the pink anthella.. Ill take some BLUE!
and justin I need to get some xenia from you when its ready! ------------- Next meeting: |
Posted By: CapnMorgan
Date Posted: February 26 2011 at 7:17pm
|
Iodine levels can adversely affect soft corals, zoas/palys, cloves, anthellia, and xenia in particular. Do you dose Iodine or Iodide in your tanks? If so what brands and what is your schedule? ------------- Steve http://utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40637&PID=356246" rel="nofollow - My Old 180G Mixed Reef Currently: 120G Wavefront Mixed 29G Seahorse & Softies Running ReefAngel Plus x2 435-8 |
Posted By: ptronsp
Date Posted: February 26 2011 at 11:40pm
|
We use Auqavito twice a week. Is that enough? Pam |
Posted By: CapnMorgan
Date Posted: February 28 2011 at 3:45pm
|
It depends on your Iodide level. I would recommend a test kit, I have to dose Iodide in my tank daily to keep my levels in check. You do have to be careful dosing Iodide, because too much can actually do harm, as can not enough. ------------- Steve http://utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40637&PID=356246" rel="nofollow - My Old 180G Mixed Reef Currently: 120G Wavefront Mixed 29G Seahorse & Softies Running ReefAngel Plus x2 435-8 |
Posted By: bfessler
Date Posted: February 28 2011 at 4:19pm
|
I agree with Steve and would recommend the SeaChem test kit over the Salifert for iodide. The Salifert kit gives a false positive for Iodine when dosing Aquavitro Vibrance. I use the salifert kits for everything else but after a lot of research I found an article on Saliferts site that explained that when using stabilized iodide like vibrance their kit can give a false positive. ------------- Burt An equal opportunity reefer, I support all hobbyists and organizations involved in Marine Aquarium Keeping. [email protected] |
Posted By: ptronsp
Date Posted: February 28 2011 at 4:29pm
| Nice to know.. thanks guys! |
Posted By: CapnMorgan
Date Posted: February 28 2011 at 6:11pm
|
+1 to that Burt I found out the hard way, thanks for clarifying that! ------------- Steve http://utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40637&PID=356246" rel="nofollow - My Old 180G Mixed Reef Currently: 120G Wavefront Mixed 29G Seahorse & Softies Running ReefAngel Plus x2 435-8 |
Posted By: wickedsnowman
Date Posted: February 28 2011 at 7:17pm
| Dosing iodine scares that crap out of me. I have read some horror stories of peeps nuking their tank. |
Posted By: CapnMorgan
Date Posted: February 28 2011 at 7:33pm
|
As long as you're testing regularly you shouldn't have a problem. As with anything if you keep an eye on it it'll work out fine. Neglect it and dose without testing and you can have a problem. ------------- Steve http://utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40637&PID=356246" rel="nofollow - My Old 180G Mixed Reef Currently: 120G Wavefront Mixed 29G Seahorse & Softies Running ReefAngel Plus x2 435-8 |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: March 01 2011 at 8:37am
|
Watch the coral. Add a little of anything and watch the coral. They may show a slight change or improvement. Follow their lead. If you have never added Iodine of any kind, it's time to. Add a small amount. Take it slowly and observe. Tests can be deceptive and can be wrong. Watch the coral. ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
|