Is this stupid?
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Topic: Is this stupid?
Posted By: bugzme
Subject: Is this stupid?
Date Posted: July 21 2010 at 6:12pm
To run a kalk reactor by ph? Seems like I would be able to keep my ph wherever I wanted.
------------- Jeff
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T-5 lighting
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Posted By: BobC63
Date Posted: July 21 2010 at 6:17pm
Do you mean controlling the reactor based on the actual display tank pH?
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Posted By: bugzme
Date Posted: July 21 2010 at 6:20pm
Yes and the sump ph. I have 2 probes running and I think I could do a program that would average them out. Everyone run kalk at night to keep their ph up and I started to think about this. (I'm old and need things to think about) lol
------------- Jeff
125 tank
50 gallon sump
T-5 lighting
Rum drinker, Carbon User
I KNOW ROCKS THAT ARE YOUNGER THEN ME!! I AM A Realist! I write what I think!!
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Posted By: sterling18
Date Posted: July 21 2010 at 7:21pm
No not at all. I think that's a very good idea. That will keep your pH in check. But be careful. There will be a latency between the Kalk being added and when your pH hits the numbers you want. Also, you don't want to use the pH probe in the sump to get your readings as that will get a high reading and shut off your Kalk before your whole tank adjusts gets the pH level.
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Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: July 22 2010 at 9:19am
Why does it seem that I am often going against the general flow of how most other people think?
Anyway, here is my opinion: To use Kalkwasser for the purpose of raising pH is unwise, IMO. The worst case scenario would be a pH probe/setup failure in the wrong direction, dumping so much Kalkwasser that it nukes the tank. What failsafe could be designed to prevent that catastrophe?
IMO, Kalkwasser should be viewed as just an "okay" and only mediocre method to supplement Alk and Ca in the top off water. Topping off only during the dark hours has the added benefit of helping the Refugium to keep pH up at a time when the tank is most vulnerable to the effects of low pH. The period of time when the display is asleep and photosynthesis has stopped.
As convenient as automation is, there is no substitute for the hobbyists task of visually checking both the appearance of the tank and the Alk and Ca levels with manual testing.
IMO, a better and much safer method would be to manually adjust the amount and speed of Kalkwasser top-off each night. Then, using automation, enable shut off of the Kalkwasser dosing system, when the pH probe senses pH > 8.4. The float valve or solenoid would keep the top-off system from exceeding the maximum water level. I would place the effluent from the Kalkwasser system at the return pump or directly in the display.
That's my 2 cents.
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