Anyone have green nepthea???
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Topic: Anyone have green nepthea???
Posted By: cl2ysta1
Subject: Anyone have green nepthea???
Date Posted: March 21 2008 at 8:33pm
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Wondering if anyone here in utah had it. Its a green leather that is extinct in the wild.
And a pic if you could.
------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |
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Posted By: Debbles
Date Posted: March 21 2008 at 9:14pm
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I think Mike Sanches (Rockstarfish) has some.
Deb  ------------- Yes Mikey...I still have fins!!! |
Posted By: pa_reptileman_4
Date Posted: March 21 2008 at 9:25pm
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i have some give me a few to get a pic. ------------- pitiful guppy tank. shane |
Posted By: pa_reptileman_4
Date Posted: March 21 2008 at 9:29pm
here ya go....
 ------------- pitiful guppy tank. shane |
Posted By: TriggerHappy
Date Posted: March 21 2008 at 9:35pm
I have some: ------------- 210 gallon Mixed Reef |
Posted By: pa_reptileman_4
Date Posted: March 21 2008 at 9:48pm
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bill that doesnt look like mine...is mine the right stuff? i did a search and looked like it. ------------- pitiful guppy tank. shane |
Posted By: Tresa
Date Posted: March 21 2008 at 9:52pm
| That leather is huge! Is that a trigger? |
Posted By: TriggerHappy
Date Posted: March 21 2008 at 10:05pm
That is just the top half.  Yes, that is a Blue Jaw/Chin Trigger.------------- 210 gallon Mixed Reef |
Tresa wrote:Posted By: TriggerHappy
Date Posted: March 21 2008 at 10:06pm
Not too sure...can you take a close up? ------------- 210 gallon Mixed Reef |
Posted By: pa_reptileman_4
Date Posted: March 21 2008 at 10:14pm
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yes i jsut went to get one but its a little shriveled up right now. ------------- pitiful guppy tank. shane |
Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: March 21 2008 at 10:23pm
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haha at shrivled! yeah thats the stuff!!!! wasa wondeirng how common it was in aquariums out here ------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |
Posted By: pa_reptileman_4
Date Posted: March 21 2008 at 10:33pm
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i just got mine a few weeks ago, from a member on the board... ------------- pitiful guppy tank. shane |
Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: March 21 2008 at 10:50pm
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it very well could be it. there are few leathers this green.
they are selling it online for 40.00 for a 2 inch fragmenet. I'm going to start aquaculturing mine ;) ------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |
Posted By: Jhamb
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 12:28am
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oh man that sucks! I used to have one before the tank crash almost a year ago!
------------- Jeremy 40B INW USAF |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 2:58pm
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The rumors of its extinction in the wild are very much exagerrated but I'll sell you a frag for $40 Here's a pic of what I have. It's the greenest one. http://www.utahreefs.com/ReefTour2002/pages/DSC01261.htm - http://www.utahreefs.com/ReefTour2002/pages/DSC01261.htm ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member 
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And it's actually Sinularia not Nepthea.Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 4:11pm
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isnt the sinularia have larger branches like afinger leather and fuzzier? nepthia is more long thin branches and fuzzy but not as much...?
so which one is extinct the nepthea or sinularia? ------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |
Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 5:25pm
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I agree with Mark; it is Sinularia.
Mike -------------  |
Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 5:33pm
nepthea
 Rare Palau Nepthea
Known only in captivity, this coral is said to be extinct. Frags will come in about 1", but open up to 2 inches. 2" Open-$40 Sinularia *looks totally different*
http://www.reefcorner.com/SpecimenSheets/green_sinularia.htm - http://www.reefcorner.com/SpecimenSheets/green_sinularia.htm
------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |
Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 5:35pm
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also this wason that page...
Sinularia corals can be identified by the fact that the growth originates from a single heavy stalk unlike Nepthea and the polyps are less feathery than in colt corals. ------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |
Posted By: TriggerHappy
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 5:55pm
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I've got an absolute gold mine in my tank then ...is that on e-bay?
------------- 210 gallon Mixed Reef |
Posted By: TriggerHappy
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 5:59pm
Never mind...I just Googled it. I cannot believe it.
------------- 210 gallon Mixed Reef |
Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 6:23pm
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yeah its on atlantis aquarium ------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |
Posted By: jfinch
Date Posted: March 23 2008 at 12:41am
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It's very difficult even for a pro to identify octocoral by picture alone and I'm certainly no expert but this has been discussed ad nauseum here. The coral in the picture from Atlantis aquarium and labeled "Rare Palau Nepthea" looks (and has the same background story) as the "green nephthea" coral that is in almost everyone's tank here in utah. But it's almost certainly not nephthea. Nephthea has non-retractile autozooid polyps and has no polyps on the main stalk. You can tell from the Atlantis aquarium picture that that coral has polyps on the stalk and has fully retractile polyps. I think both Adam Cesnales and Eric B thought it was Sinularia. Whatever it is, it's very plentiful in SLC and it's a very beautiful coral. ------------- Jon https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6y_EzjI_ljbIwf2n5uNzTw" rel="nofollow - What I've been doing... |
Posted By: pa_reptileman_4
Date Posted: March 23 2008 at 1:01am
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ok so what do i have then? i am lost.... ------------- pitiful guppy tank. shane |
Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: March 23 2008 at 11:40am
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well if jon is right you have sinularia since your polyps retracted. I'm no coral ID expert for sure! ------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |
Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: March 23 2008 at 11:51am
here is what i have. so the polpys on nepthea literally CANNOT retract at all?
   ------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |
Posted By: jfinch
Date Posted: March 23 2008 at 1:19pm
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Nephthia polyps are non-retractile like xenia. They can bunch up, but they don't pull into the mouth of the polyp like the coral in your pics. All my books are still packed away, but I'm sure Borneman covers this in his Coral book. Here's a very good on-line Octocoral taxonomy guide: Part One (pp. 1-35) http://octocoralresearch.com/PDF%20Files%203/Octocoral%20workshop%20Book/Octocoral%20Workshop%20Laboratory%20Manual%202007%201%20of%203.pdf - http://octocoralresearch.com/PDF%20F...1%20of%203.pdf Part Two (pp. 36-70) http://octocoralresearch.com/PDF%20Files%203/Octocoral%20workshop%20Book/Octocoral%20Workshop%20Laboratory%20Manual%202007%202%20of%203.pdf - http://octocoralresearch.com/PDF%20F...2%20of%203.pdf Part Three (pp. 71-91) http://octocoralresearch.com/PDF%20Files%203/Octocoral%20workshop%20Book/Octocoral%20Workshop%20Laboratory%20Manual%202007%203%20of%203.pdf - http://octocoralresearch.com/PDF%20F...3%20of%203.pdf Here's a picture of a coral that was sold to me as Lemnalia (but I doubt it's Lemnalia, my money's on sinularia too. It looks and feels very similar to the "green nephthia" only mine had white polyps where the "green nephthia" has green) showing both fully open polyps and fully retractile polyps: (hmm, I guess I can't upload pictures...) ------------- Jon https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6y_EzjI_ljbIwf2n5uNzTw" rel="nofollow - What I've been doing... |
Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: March 23 2008 at 1:26pm
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sweet thanks for the reading info ------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |
Posted By: FRAGgleROCK
Date Posted: March 24 2008 at 9:00pm
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I also have the same looking nepthia. I haven't really noticed the polyps retract into a "mouth" per say, but they do fold into themselves when the coral recedes or shrinks. maybe it's just a misunderstanding on what "polyp retraction" is defined as.??
------------- ahhh a box with water in it?? |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: March 24 2008 at 9:22pm
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neither of them are extinct. it's an unfounded rumor that has been used to increase the value of the ordinary coral. It's an all too common marketing ploy. Sorry Crystal. I was only kidding about $40. I'll give you a frag. ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
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Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: March 24 2008 at 9:36pm
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haha. so do you have REAL nepthia or sinularia also? i'm so confused.
is nepthea a myth? ------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: March 26 2008 at 12:26pm
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The stuff we used to call Green Nepthea was correctly id'd as Sinularia a few years ago by our club guests as Jon stated above. ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
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Posted By: Cody Pearce
Date Posted: March 29 2008 at 12:10pm
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There was a guy on here that actually had green nepthea (not the common green sinularia that is in the club) and sold it for 50 bucks per inch frag. ------------- 90 gallon mixed reef My fish swim naked. |