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    Posted: November 17 2009 at 10:31am
So my landlord came over today to drop off some stuff and I asked her if she wanted to see the tank. She came in and I went downstairs to turn on the lights and only one was on.

Then after she left I went downstairs and made sure the controller was in the right state, and that the ballast was on. The ballast makes the normal humming noise for each bulb, but I am getting no light.

The bulbs are about 2 months old, but I tried another anyways, and nothing. The ballast is still humming, but nothing is coming out.


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I had one do that before, then I waited about an hour and it just started working again
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should i leave it running, or turn it off? thanks for the input, hope this is the case, but i am not counting on it.

FYI, this is a PFO pulse start ballast.
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I would turn it off and let it sit for a while.

*edit   mine was a PFO as well


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cool. i will do, lets hope that the problem goes away for now.

then i can figure out what the real problem is and order a part.
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turns out they were off, so i turned them on, they both fired! then the one that didn't fire before turned back off...Cry
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Originally posted by downhill_biker downhill_biker wrote:

turns out they were off, so i turned them on, they both fired! then the one that didn't fire before turned back off...Cry


sounds like a short or some kind.  Is it a retro or a fixture?
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yes its a retro fixture. 2 lumenmax XL reflectors, dual pfo pulse start 400w, and radium 20k bulbs. i guess i will take apart the ballast and make sure the wiring looks good.

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I would check the wiring from the ballast to the bulbs first. If nothing is found, then try the ballast.  For safety sake, you dont want to just jump right to the ballast because if I remember correctly they store some power and it takes a little time to bleed off.
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It is hardwired the whole way, no plugs all the way from the socket to the internals of the ballast. I opened the ballast just to look, and everything looked fine. Put it back together and now the other bulb is firing, and the one that was firing before, is no longer firing...this has to by symptoms for something...
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that is strange.  I think you should just turn them off for 20-30 and then see what happens.  
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might be the starter, on my bluewave one light doesn't come on but if i switch the cord it will fire the bulb that was already warmed up and they both work...I think the pfo has the ballast/capaciter/starter setup as well

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figured out the problem. it was the controller. the first plug is wacked out and not working properly. when i opened the ballast i unplugged them, and when i plugged them back in i guess i switched plugs. that is why the one firing changed. i guess i will be contacting neptune to see why this dc8 is shorting out.
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Well at least you figured it out. Funny, when I got into this hobby, I had no idea I was going to hafta become an electrician, a plumber, and a chemist!

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