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    Posted: June 15 2014 at 3:26pm
I just picked up a pair of clown fish, one is a black clown the other i'm thinking is a juvenile black onyx?

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I'd say amphiprion percula
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amphiprion percula is onyx percula correct?
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also is she going to turn completely black, or stay like this?
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Originally posted by Reefboy4life Reefboy4life wrote:

amphiprion percula is onyx percula correct?
The pic you posted matches what is called a Black Onyx. You should know that you're being teased. Amphiprion percula is the scientific name for one species of clownfish. Amphiprion ocellaris is another species, sometimes called False Clownfish or False Percula because it was discovered after the original named Clownfish, A. percula.

The two species come from different places in the South Pacific Ocean. They are generally indistinguishable from one another and now that people are breeding them all over the place, maybe even interbreeding, it's almost impossible for us ordinary hobbyists to be sure which species we have or whether it's a cross of the two.

By the way, we know that Nemo and his dad, Marlin are A. percula because of where they lived. Smile


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Common names are arbitrarily given based on coloration and like the freshwater Guppy, new color variants are being developed all the time, but how can we know for sure whether our clownfish is A. Ocellaris or A. Percula?
What does it matter?
Who cares?
There are hobbyists that claim they can tell the difference between Ocellaris and Percula and their arguments may seem very convincing. In the last post, now edited, I placed a link to a website that, after further reading, was clearly one of those. I believe it's more accurate to say that the only way we can be sure is to know 2 facts, but even that is open for debate.

- What part of the ocean did the clownfish or it's ancestors originate?
- How many dorsal spines?

Unfortunately the number of dorsal spines alone cannot be a positive determination because they overlap. Percula can have either 9 or 10 and Ocellaris can have either 10 or 11. To make the matter even more confusing, it appears there is also a slight overlap in the ranges where these two fishes are found. Wacko

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