WMAS Discussion Forum : Sump or refugium first http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Tue, 28 Jul 2026 13:32:50 +0000 Wed, 04 Jan 2006 21:17:15 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.03 360 www.utahreefs.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=9647 <![CDATA[WMAS Discussion Forum]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/1by1.gif http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ <![CDATA[Sump or refugium first : Good suggestions above. Just...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9647&PID=92215&title=sump-or-refugium-first#92215 Author: Mark Peterson
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Posted: January 04 2006 at 9:17pm

Good suggestions above.

Just a note, water can flow more quickly through a Refugium than most people have it flowing. And the quicker the flow, to a point, the faster algae will grow and the more easily pod larvae will be swept into the main tank.

Also, intense white light is best for a Refugium where macroalgae is to be grown and harvested as a way of exporting nutrients. 4000K - 10,000K but not blue/actinic. (The exception to this is a Sponge Refugium which should be left dark.)

]]> Wed, 04 Jan 2006 21:17:15 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9647&PID=92215&title=sump-or-refugium-first#92215 <![CDATA[Sump or refugium first : i just plumbed mine the other...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9647&PID=92149&title=sump-or-refugium-first#92149 Author: LostCauseZ06
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Posted: January 04 2006 at 10:39am

i just plumbed mine the other day... ryan at aqautic recommended the following..


i have a 29 gallon tank that is seperated in half with sump on 1 side and fuge on other side. i have my sump overflow line running down into a T joint. one line going into sump and 1 into the fuge, the fuge then spills over the side into the sump side and is sucked up with the return pump. i run my skimmer, activated carbon, and the white mat thingys in white egg crate lighting stuff.


im also running a 6" deep sand bed in the fuge (aragamud) with soon to have calurpa and some macro algae.

i didnt have to run a ball joint on the fuge side.. the way i have my pipes set up diverts about 1/8 of the water into the fuge so its a nice slow steady drip past the teeth in the seperator that overflows into the sump.



hope this helps
]]> Wed, 04 Jan 2006 10:39:20 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9647&PID=92149&title=sump-or-refugium-first#92149 <![CDATA[Sump or refugium first : Thanks Susan, I coudn&#039;t stay...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9647&PID=91013&title=sump-or-refugium-first#91013 Author: meterman
Subject: 9647
Posted: December 24 2005 at 7:04pm

Thanks Susan, I coudn't stay away too long...]]> Sat, 24 Dec 2005 19:04:58 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9647&PID=91013&title=sump-or-refugium-first#91013 <![CDATA[Sump or refugium first : Hey Mr. Alex - welcome back to...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9647&PID=91001&title=sump-or-refugium-first#91001 Author: smatney
Subject: 9647
Posted: December 24 2005 at 4:47pm

Hey Mr. Alex - welcome back to the hobby!]]> Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:47:27 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9647&PID=91001&title=sump-or-refugium-first#91001 <![CDATA[Sump or refugium first : Thanks for everyone&#039;s input....]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9647&PID=90974&title=sump-or-refugium-first#90974 Author: meterman
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Posted: December 24 2005 at 2:01pm

Thanks for everyone's input. 

Jared C. 
   Not a bad idea... a little more plumbing.

Josh, Shane
   I prefer the sump and refugium under the display. 
In the display>refugium>sump configuration I was thinking that if any pods take the ride from the refugium they will also take the ride to the display from the sump.  If I ever have to put fish in the sump temporarily, there may be pods in it from the refugium to eat.

Jeff
   I'll have to check dimensions of a 20G Long.  If I have to remove any livestock for any reason - it can go in the sump, rather than in the refugium.  I don't want a pod or macro eating animal in the refugium.

How are your systems set-up?  I assume the way you recommended.

]]> Sat, 24 Dec 2005 14:01:24 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9647&PID=90974&title=sump-or-refugium-first#90974 <![CDATA[Sump or refugium first : I would get a 20 long and do one...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9647&PID=90881&title=sump-or-refugium-first#90881 Author: jeffras
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Posted: December 23 2005 at 6:24pm

I would get a 20 long and do one large refugium with baffles and asmall section of it for sump iff needed. I had the dual setup (2X20gtall) and have changed to 2 refugiums because the sump is reallymeaningless. What is it's use? I have my skimmer carefully placed in myrefugium and everything is working great. I have twice the sandbed,twice the macro, twice the live rock, and the additional water.
]]> Fri, 23 Dec 2005 18:24:37 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9647&PID=90881&title=sump-or-refugium-first#90881 <![CDATA[Sump or refugium first : I would stack them (top to bottom)...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9647&PID=90873&title=sump-or-refugium-first#90873 Author: Shane H
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Posted: December 23 2005 at 5:08pm

I would stack them (top to bottom) in this order:

Refugium

Display Tank

Sump

Pump the water from the sump into the refugium and allow it to gravity feed from there, through the display tank back to the sump.

If this isn't possible, I agree with Josh.]]> Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:08:07 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9647&PID=90873&title=sump-or-refugium-first#90873 <![CDATA[Sump or refugium first : I would do sump then refugium...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9647&PID=90859&title=sump-or-refugium-first#90859 Author: j's55
Subject: 9647
Posted: December 23 2005 at 2:23pm

I would do sump then refugium because any pods in the refugium can get
sucked up into the return and fed to your tank]]> Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:23:10 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9647&PID=90859&title=sump-or-refugium-first#90859 <![CDATA[Sump or refugium first : You sould consider not feeding...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9647&PID=90857&title=sump-or-refugium-first#90857 Author: jcaulley
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Posted: December 23 2005 at 12:21pm

You sould consider not feeding them inline but seperately.  Take the output of your 20 into a T, feed one side unrestricted into the sump.  Use a ball valve to control flow into the refugium and ideally the refugium should overflow into the sump.  Them pump from the sump back to the tank.  Refugiums should have a low water flow to allow all the little critters you want to grow in it a safe non-turbulent place to thrive and I think (not sure) that macro algae does better nutrient export if it is given more contact time with the water.  This is my understanding of it anways.

Edited by jcaulley]]> Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:21:35 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9647&PID=90857&title=sump-or-refugium-first#90857 <![CDATA[Sump or refugium first : I think that would work best but...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9647&PID=90856&title=sump-or-refugium-first#90856 Author: RockStarFish
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Posted: December 23 2005 at 12:05pm

I think that would work best but I am not a expert

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