WMAS Discussion Forum : 40b sump build http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Thu, 18 Jun 2026 15:54:42 +0000 Sun, 15 Jan 2017 04:38:55 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.03 360 www.utahreefs.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=81711 <![CDATA[WMAS Discussion Forum]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/1by1.gif http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ <![CDATA[40b sump build : I was just thinking the same...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81711&PID=620886&title=40b-sump-build#620886 Author: phys
Subject: 81711
Posted: January 15 2017 at 4:38am

I was just thinking the same as Krazie on the return area. If you have it in the middle, you allow more water to potentially be filtered by the skimmer before being pulled out. Most sump designs have a progressive filter setup, one after another, so the water can be cleaned more and more as it goes through the sump. Having the refugium on the next chamber to the return maaaay introduce some unwanted algae bits from being caught up in the propeller. Maybe make a 4 chamber design? ]]> Sun, 15 Jan 2017 04:38:55 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81711&PID=620886&title=40b-sump-build#620886 <![CDATA[40b sump build : It seems to be very popular...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81711&PID=620794&title=40b-sump-build#620794 Author: Krazie4Acans
Subject: 81711
Posted: January 13 2017 at 7:10am

Quote It seems to be very popular nowadays.   I was thinking of having add ons in the return, is it better to have them in chamber 1? If thats the case ill slide the
trap down 5" and have much more room.


I generally try to keep the return area of my sump for cleaned filtered water and introduction of dosing elements. I want all filtration to be complete prior to the water reaching that final chamber. This helps reduce detritus buildup in this area and makes it very easy to quickly see if some foreign object has made it through the sump and is in danger of being sucked into the return pump and either stopping the pump or damaging it.

The only exception I can think of to this would be if you were running a bio-denitrator or are carbon dosing as those things you would want introduced back into the sump prior to and as close to the skimmer intake as possible.
]]> Fri, 13 Jan 2017 07:10:22 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81711&PID=620794&title=40b-sump-build#620794 <![CDATA[40b sump build : Reefer4Ever wrote:A 2&#034;...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81711&PID=620784&title=40b-sump-build#620784 Author: proskier101
Subject: 81711
Posted: January 12 2017 at 11:30pm

Originally posted by Reefer4Ever Reefer4Ever wrote:

A 2" drop will make some serious waterfall noise. Depending on how tall you make the bubble trap you can raise the skimmer up for proper height. I always wonder in these type of setups if there is a notable increase in nutrients in the water as what flows to the refugium will remove such a small amount or if in the long run its better. My return is only 5" as I made my first chamber the big chamber for all equipment add ons.


It seems to be very popular nowadays.   I was thinking of having add ons in the return, is it better to have them in chamber 1? If thats the case ill slide the
trap down 5" and have much more room. ]]> Thu, 12 Jan 2017 23:30:29 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81711&PID=620784&title=40b-sump-build#620784 <![CDATA[40b sump build : So your baffle height is 9 inches....]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81711&PID=620775&title=40b-sump-build#620775 Author: Krazie4Acans
Subject: 81711
Posted: January 12 2017 at 10:24pm

So your baffle height is 9 inches. What is the operating height for that skimmer? Will it be sitting higher than that? If it is then I would give your skimmer more room.
]]> Thu, 12 Jan 2017 22:24:50 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81711&PID=620775&title=40b-sump-build#620775 <![CDATA[40b sump build : A 2&#034; drop will make some...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81711&PID=620774&title=40b-sump-build#620774 Author: Reefer4Ever
Subject: 81711
Posted: January 12 2017 at 10:24pm

A 2" drop will make some serious waterfall noise. Depending on how tall you make the bubble trap you can raise the skimmer up for proper height. I always wonder in these type of setups if there is a notable increase in nutrients in the water as what flows to the refugium will remove such a small amount or if in the long run its better. My return is only 5" as I made my first chamber the big chamber for all equipment add ons. ]]> Thu, 12 Jan 2017 22:24:07 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81711&PID=620774&title=40b-sump-build#620774 <![CDATA[40b sump build : No its not. ]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81711&PID=620773&title=40b-sump-build#620773 Author: proskier101
Subject: 81711
Posted: January 12 2017 at 10:13pm

No its not.

]]> Thu, 12 Jan 2017 22:13:01 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81711&PID=620773&title=40b-sump-build#620773 <![CDATA[40b sump build : That looks tight to me but it...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81711&PID=620765&title=40b-sump-build#620765 Author: Krazie4Acans
Subject: 81711
Posted: January 12 2017 at 9:47pm

That looks tight to me but it would probably still work. Is the entire cup above the rim of the sump?]]> Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:47:16 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81711&PID=620765&title=40b-sump-build#620765 <![CDATA[40b sump build : here is the collection cup location:...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81711&PID=620755&title=40b-sump-build#620755 Author: proskier101
Subject: 81711
Posted: January 12 2017 at 7:33pm

here is the collection cup location:

]]> Thu, 12 Jan 2017 19:33:55 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81711&PID=620755&title=40b-sump-build#620755 <![CDATA[40b sump build : Krazie4Acans wrote:Does the...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81711&PID=620732&title=40b-sump-build#620732 Author: proskier101
Subject: 81711
Posted: January 12 2017 at 3:49pm

Originally posted by Krazie4Acans Krazie4Acans wrote:

Does the skimmer area give you room so that if your skimmer overflows it all stays in the sump?

Melev makes great stuff. His baffles do have teeth on top. Great for helping with snail control, bad for being quiet and reducing splash (think about the overflow and the noise that they make with water going through teeth) compared to an over the entire top edge type. The way you have it will probably work as well it might just work a little better or be less mess in the long term if you tweak it a little.

The skimmer does have enough room.  Even where it sits now, it would flow into the sump, giving it an extra inch would just allow more volume in that chamber.  Ill get a picture with all the stuff in it too.

I was hoping being able to control the flow in the fuge and having only a 2"ish drop it would be ok.   We will see.

]]> Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:49:33 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81711&PID=620732&title=40b-sump-build#620732 <![CDATA[40b sump build : Does the skimmer area give you...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81711&PID=620723&title=40b-sump-build#620723 Author: Krazie4Acans
Subject: 81711
Posted: January 12 2017 at 12:34pm

Does the skimmer area give you room so that if your skimmer overflows it all stays in the sump?

Melev makes great stuff. His baffles do have teeth on top. Great for helping with snail control, bad for being quiet and reducing splash (think about the overflow and the noise that they make with water going through teeth) compared to an over the entire top edge type. The way you have it will probably work as well it might just work a little better or be less mess in the long term if you tweak it a little.
]]> Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:34:26 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81711&PID=620723&title=40b-sump-build#620723