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   <title><![CDATA[Reef Safe Butterfly fish... : from breeding frogs, the individuals...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=666">Mantella20</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7664<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;15&nbsp;2005 at 12:08am<br /><br /><P>from breeding frogs, the individuals who have never seeen the wild seem to be a whole lot easier to breed.&nbsp; They don't know their is a whole other world out there, and the small tank is all they know.&nbsp; Perhaps then that being the world they know, that is the world they will breed in.&nbsp; This is just what I have noticed with my poison dart frogs, whom are very difficult to breed depending on species.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>ed parker</P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Reef Safe Butterfly fish... : CR?   I have to think about this...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=68">Suzy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7664<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;08&nbsp;2005 at 12:16pm<br /><br />CR? <br /> I have to think about this for a bit. Would taking the larvae from the <br />ocean increase it's survivablilty? It wouldn't have as many predators, <br />right?<br /><br /> Would it be better than leaving them in the ocean and then taking them <br />when they are juveniles?<br /><br /><br />Hmmm...]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Reef Safe Butterfly fish... : There is a project going on to...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=5">Adam Blundell</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7664<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;08&nbsp;2005 at 12:10pm<br /><br /><P>There is a project going on to produce captive reared Moorish Idols right now.&nbsp; They are collecting Idol larvae and bringing them to shore and raising them in tanks.&nbsp; </P><P>But still a few years away from being commercially available.</P><P>Adam</P>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 12:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Reef Safe Butterfly fish... : Do you think in our lifetime we...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=68">Suzy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7664<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;08&nbsp;2005 at 11:58am<br /><br />Do you think in our lifetime we will see a TR Moorish Idol? That would be <br />the ultimate in cool.<br /><br /> No, the ultimate in cool would be a CB...]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 11:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Reef Safe Butterfly fish... :   acerob wrote: I think that...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=213">Will Spencer</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7664<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;08&nbsp;2005 at 11:48am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by acerob" alt="Originally posted by acerob" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>acerob wrote:</strong><br /><br /><P>I think that they are awesome, but I don't want the death of such a beautiful fish hanging over my head.&nbsp;</td></tr></table> </P><P>That's my problem too.&nbsp; </P><P>As for Heniochus, I think the only problem could possibly be the Zoo's.&nbsp; Otherwise I don't think they would bother leathers or 'Shrooms.&nbsp; But it depends on the fish too.&nbsp; Some would never touch your zoo's, other might.</P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Reef Safe Butterfly fish... : I think that they are awesome,...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=539">acerob</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7664<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;08&nbsp;2005 at 11:10am<br /><br /><P>I think that they are awesome, but I don't want the death of such a beautiful fish hanging over my head.&nbsp; Maybe if I could find a TR one.&nbsp; Plus all of the MI at the LFS are huge, I'd like on just a little bit smaller.</P><P>for the most part I just have a bunch of Zoo's, mushrooms and frogspawn, you think any of those would be a problem w/Heniochus??</P><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by acerob</span>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 11:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Reef Safe Butterfly fish... :   Adam Blundell wrote: A Heniochus...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=213">Will Spencer</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7664<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;07&nbsp;2005 at 10:43pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Adam Blundell" alt="Originally posted by Adam Blundell" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Adam Blundell wrote:</strong><br /><br /><P>A Heniochus is about a million times easier to keep.&nbsp; But they will often pick at small zoanthids or some acro polyps.&nbsp; Kind of risky.</P><P>Adam</P><P></td></tr></table> </P><P>You forgot to say "Buy it anyway."<IMG src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I have seen many in reef tanks, but I suppose it depends on what kinds of corals you have and how important they are to you.</P><P>I'm with your son.&nbsp; I'd like to have a Morish Idol Myself.</P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Reef Safe Butterfly fish... : A Heniochus is about a million...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=5">Adam Blundell</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7664<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;07&nbsp;2005 at 5:13pm<br /><br /><P>A Heniochus is about a million times easier to keep.&nbsp; But they will often pick at small zoanthids or some acro polyps.&nbsp; Kind of risky.</P><P>Adam</P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Reef Safe Butterfly fish... : how are Heniochus Butterfly&amp;#039;s??...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=539">acerob</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7664<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;07&nbsp;2005 at 2:24pm<br /><br /><P>how are Heniochus Butterfly's??&nbsp; </P><P>My son wants me to get a Morish Idol, I don't think that I want to take on that big of a challenge.&nbsp; I think I could fool him with a Heniochus thou.</P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Reef Safe Butterfly fish... : I have a copper banded in my 125...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=666">Mantella20</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7664<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August&nbsp;25&nbsp;2005 at 6:44pm<br /><br /><P>I have a copper banded in my 125 reef living fat and happy with a few hawaiian feather dusters, and I still have a bunch of small LR dusters on my rocks.&nbsp; He has been in my tank for 3 or 4 months now, and the only problem i have is the yellow tang is dominant over him, and sometimes tries to show him who is boss.&nbsp; He was very difficult at first when I got him, but within a month he was healthy and now eats fine.&nbsp; he eats aipitasia (totally cured my tank of them), brine shrimp, and he loves the "angel and butterfly" frozen food you can get at your LFS.&nbsp; He really enjoys the mysis shrimp, which are one of the ingredients in the Angel butterfly food.&nbsp; He has even taken flake food a few times.&nbsp; Very beautiful fish, and if you can work it, get one.&nbsp; I think they would do best in a larger tank though, imho.</P><P>Forgot to mention, 2 months now with a crocea clam, and he hasn't picked at it once.</P><P>Ed Parker</P><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Mantella20</span>]]>
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