WMAS Discussion Forum : Fish are dying http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 27 Jun 2026 23:31:15 +0000 Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:35:36 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.03 360 www.utahreefs.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=72225 <![CDATA[WMAS Discussion Forum]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/1by1.gif http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ <![CDATA[Fish are dying : Mark Peterson wrote: jdinchak...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72225&PID=570997&title=fish-are-dying#570997 Author: jdinchak
Subject: 72225
Posted: July 29 2014 at 6:35pm

Originally posted by Mark Peterson Mark Peterson wrote:

Originally posted by jdinchak jdinchak wrote:

...We had some issues with our pump and it took a few days to get fixed so I thought the changes stressed him out and he died.... When we first got the pump back on we noticed a lot of debris came out of the piping, we did a water change, added fresh carbon and even bought filter socks to try to help that out....
I for one would really appreciate anything you could share with us regarding how this happened and what to prepare to avoid it. Maybe make it a post in this Reefkeeping Tips thread where many others shared their sad tales:
<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">Avoiding a tank crash - http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9664

Aloha Hug


See if I can talk Bacot into a SeaStar article. ]]> Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:35:36 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72225&PID=570997&title=fish-are-dying#570997 <![CDATA[Fish are dying : jdinchak wrote: Adam Blundell...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72225&PID=570994&title=fish-are-dying#570994 Author: Adam Blundell
Subject: 72225
Posted: July 29 2014 at 6:05pm

Originally posted by jdinchak jdinchak wrote:

Originally posted by Adam Blundell Adam Blundell wrote:

My thoughts... unfortunately many of the fish are toast.  I think you can do the massive catch and QT, but I think the vast majority of people would try to wait it out.


Adam




 

 

This totally made sense after going through the process.  Very much a learning curve.  Spent probably 20-30 hours between the two of us working to save the fish and with the negative outcome I can see where I could have saved the time and heartbreak but just letting it be.  Glad I fought for the fish and really appreciated the advice, just reading this again I definitely get where Adam was coming from. 

 

Will be doing more research when we restart, will have a QT system setup (I don't think this is what caused the issue but I am going to be more diligent) and will introduce fish with a freshwater dip (after seeing it didn't harm them, always freaked me out though) when purchasing. 

 

Again everyone thanks for the help. 


Wish I had been wrong. Unfortunately something I've seen happen in many tanks.

Sorry Jon,

Adam]]> Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:05:20 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72225&PID=570994&title=fish-are-dying#570994 <![CDATA[Fish are dying : jdinchak wrote:...We had some...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72225&PID=570973&title=fish-are-dying#570973 Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: 72225
Posted: July 29 2014 at 3:35pm

Originally posted by jdinchak jdinchak wrote:

...We had some issues with our pump and it took a few days to get fixed so I thought the changes stressed him out and he died.... When we first got the pump back on we noticed a lot of debris came out of the piping, we did a water change, added fresh carbon and even bought filter socks to try to help that out....
I for one would really appreciate anything you could share with us regarding how this happened and what to prepare to avoid it. Maybe make it a post in this Reefkeeping Tips thread where many others shared their sad tales:
Avoiding a tank crash - http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9664

Aloha Hug
]]> Tue, 29 Jul 2014 15:35:27 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72225&PID=570973&title=fish-are-dying#570973 <![CDATA[Fish are dying : Adam Blundell wrote:My thoughts......]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72225&PID=570965&title=fish-are-dying#570965 Author: jdinchak
Subject: 72225
Posted: July 29 2014 at 12:01pm

Originally posted by Adam Blundell Adam Blundell wrote:

My thoughts... unfortunately many of the fish are toast.  I think you can do the massive catch and QT, but I think the vast majority of people would try to wait it out.

Adam
 
 
This totally made sense after going through the process.  Very much a learning curve.  Spent probably 20-30 hours between the two of us working to save the fish and with the negative outcome I can see where I could have saved the time and heartbreak but just letting it be.  Glad I fought for the fish and really appreciated the advice, just reading this again I definitely get where Adam was coming from. 
 
Will be doing more research when we restart, will have a QT system setup (I don't think this is what caused the issue but I am going to be more diligent) and will introduce fish with a freshwater dip (after seeing it didn't harm them, always freaked me out though) when purchasing. 
 
Again everyone thanks for the help. 
]]> Tue, 29 Jul 2014 12:01:38 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72225&PID=570965&title=fish-are-dying#570965 <![CDATA[Fish are dying : ReefdUp wrote:Whoa...I&#039;m...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72225&PID=570962&title=fish-are-dying#570962 Author: jdinchak
Subject: 72225
Posted: July 29 2014 at 11:21am

Originally posted by ReefdUp ReefdUp wrote:

Whoa...I'm so sorry.

Furan2 is just an antibiotic. I doubt all of them were allergic, and I've never heard of it causing death. I did a quick search and can't find anything either. What is the expiration date? What was your ammonia level? What were you doing to control ammonia in your qt? Did you have other medications in there? How big was your qt? How long after the meds did they die?

Again, I'm terribly sorry. That's really sad and frustrating.
 
 
My wife and I were tag teaming it so I don't have that information in front of me.  We were doing frequent water changes before the Furan. It was a 30gal tank a friend loaned us, it probably had too heavy of a bioload for the size but I didn't have any other options at the time. 
 
No other meds.  The remaining 4 went within the first two days of dosing (we were on WC 1 and dose 3 when I checked and they died).
]]> Tue, 29 Jul 2014 11:21:35 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72225&PID=570962&title=fish-are-dying#570962 <![CDATA[Fish are dying : So sorry for your loss. ]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72225&PID=570941&title=fish-are-dying#570941 Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: 72225
Posted: July 29 2014 at 6:51am

So sorry for your loss.
]]> Tue, 29 Jul 2014 06:51:14 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72225&PID=570941&title=fish-are-dying#570941 <![CDATA[Fish are dying : Whoa...I&#039;m so sorry. Furan2...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72225&PID=570938&title=fish-are-dying#570938 Author: ReefdUp
Subject: 72225
Posted: July 29 2014 at 2:56am

Whoa...I'm so sorry.

Furan2 is just an antibiotic. I doubt all of them were allergic, and I've never heard of it causing death. I did a quick search and can't find anything either. What is the expiration date? What was your ammonia level? What were you doing to control ammonia in your qt? Did you have other medications in there? How big was your qt? How long after the meds did they die?

Again, I'm terribly sorry. That's really sad and frustrating.]]> Tue, 29 Jul 2014 02:56:54 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72225&PID=570938&title=fish-are-dying#570938 <![CDATA[Fish are dying : Well after adding the Furan 2...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72225&PID=570928&title=fish-are-dying#570928 Author: jdinchak
Subject: 72225
Posted: July 28 2014 at 9:36pm

Well after adding the Furan 2 following the instructions all remaining fish in qt are dead. They looked pretty bad. I had extra aeration in there and fed as much as I could be they weren't eating. The funny thing is before the furan2 they were all swimming and active. My wife believes it killed the fish. Hoping for some more background. Did it speed it up? Did it actually kill them? Was it always inevitable and they couldn't handle the treatment?

We are going to wait another 6-10 weeks before adding fish to the main tank. Will hook up a UV. Scary knowing this could still be in there. Other fish in tank look great and show no signs.

Thanks Rusty and Nikki, you guys were big helps. Really bummed out but thruthfully kinda glad it's over. :(]]> Mon, 28 Jul 2014 21:36:37 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72225&PID=570928&title=fish-are-dying#570928 <![CDATA[Fish are dying : Furan 2 takes nearly a week. It...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72225&PID=570767&title=fish-are-dying#570767 Author: ReefdUp
Subject: 72225
Posted: July 26 2014 at 8:01pm

Furan 2 takes nearly a week. It is only used as a dip for zoa-pox.]]> Sat, 26 Jul 2014 20:01:12 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72225&PID=570767&title=fish-are-dying#570767 <![CDATA[Fish are dying : Furan two needs longer than a...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72225&PID=570762&title=fish-are-dying#570762 Author: DMower
Subject: 72225
Posted: July 26 2014 at 6:23pm

Furan two needs longer than a dip to be effective. Must qt   ]]> Sat, 26 Jul 2014 18:23:14 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72225&PID=570762&title=fish-are-dying#570762