WMAS Discussion Forum : Monthly raffle

WMAS Discussion Forum : Monthly raffle http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 15 Jun 2026 00:54:40 +0000 Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:14:12 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.03 360 www.utahreefs.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=61344 <![CDATA[WMAS Discussion Forum]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/1by1.gif http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ <![CDATA[Monthly raffle : This is something we've (club...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61344&PID=500899&title=monthly-raffle#500899 Author: Summertop
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Posted: January 14 2013 at 3:14pm

This is something we've (club presidency) has been thinking about for a while. You might take a look at what we are starting at the Feb meeting: http://utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61370&title=wmas-and-ocean-conservation

Edited by Summertop - January 14 2013 at 3:15pm]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:14:12 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61344&PID=500899&title=monthly-raffle#500899 <![CDATA[Monthly raffle : Over on a Jeep forum i was on...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61344&PID=500882&title=monthly-raffle#500882 Author: Jeepkid
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Posted: January 14 2013 at 1:39pm

Over on a Jeep forum i was on we used to give prizes away for POTM winners. Our on site vendors would volunteer to give a prize away. Not sure how that would fit in here but.just thought i'd share. I do know they stopped giving away prizes like over a year ago though. Dont remember why exactly.]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:39:34 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61344&PID=500882&title=monthly-raffle#500882 <![CDATA[Monthly raffle : If they do Please pm! We are always...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61344&PID=500881&title=monthly-raffle#500881 Author: Jeremyw
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Posted: January 14 2013 at 1:32pm

If they do Please pm! We are always looking to do it over the internet, but they have gotten the laws pretty much locked down and tight on that! And Paypal is a beast with it!

jeremy

]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:32:04 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61344&PID=500881&title=monthly-raffle#500881 <![CDATA[Monthly raffle : Yeah, I couldn't think of...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61344&PID=500879&title=monthly-raffle#500879 Author: Shayne
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Posted: January 14 2013 at 1:29pm

Yeah, I couldn't think of a way to make it work. I just figured I'd put the info out there in case someone came up with a good idea.]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:29:49 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61344&PID=500879&title=monthly-raffle#500879 <![CDATA[Monthly raffle : Thats interesting Shad.We do raffles...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61344&PID=500878&title=monthly-raffle#500878 Author: Jeremyw
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Posted: January 14 2013 at 1:26pm

Thats interesting Shad.

We do raffles all the time and they are great. Its the online part that is a beast. Paypal will hold our money if they see us doing it. I know someone here has had that happen to them!

Jeremy

]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:26:58 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61344&PID=500878&title=monthly-raffle#500878 <![CDATA[Monthly raffle : Shayne wrote:I run a weekly...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61344&PID=500871&title=monthly-raffle#500871 Author: ClownFishAddict
Subject: 61344
Posted: January 14 2013 at 1:09pm

Shayne wrote:

I run a weekly Texas Hold'em tournament at the Point After sports bar. The bar offers $100 to the winner of the tournament (and additional money to 2nd and 3rd place, which is determined by the total number of players). The players are not required to pay to play. They are just asked to voluntarily tip the dealers for their services (That's how I make my money). The bar benefits from having extra people in the bar buying food and drinks. The players get to have fun playing Hold'em and have the chance to win a cash prize. The way this all works legally is that you can't require a purchase in order to win the prize. IE: Buy a lottery/raffle ticket, place a wager, require a buy-in. A person could walk into the bar and play for free and have just as much chance to win as anyone else. That satisfies the law since there is not a requirement to pay to play. This style of tournament is being used in around 20-30 bars throughout the state.

In order to do a raffle legally you'd need to do it in a way that didn't require a purchase. There would have to be an element that left it open to play for free.

Here is the Utah Code on the issue: http://le.utah.gov/code/TITLE76/htm/76_10_110100.htm

That sounds great but unfortunately in utahreefs case that would not work. great for a place of business like that where the customers come to play and buy drinks and stuff but on here it would not pay for itself. We would need a guaranteed income to pay for the items being raffled off. But that is some good info to know. Thanks.
]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:09:53 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61344&PID=500871&title=monthly-raffle#500871 <![CDATA[Monthly raffle : I run a weekly Texas Hold'em...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61344&PID=500866&title=monthly-raffle#500866 Author: Shayne
Subject: 61344
Posted: January 14 2013 at 12:45pm

I run a weekly Texas Hold'em tournament at the Point After sports bar. The bar offers $100 to the winner of the tournament (and additional money to 2nd and 3rd place, which is determined by the total number of players). The players are not required to pay to play. They are just asked to voluntarily tip the dealers for their services (That's how I make my money). The bar benefits from having extra people in the bar buying food and drinks. The players get to have fun playing Hold'em and have the chance to win a cash prize. The way this all works legally is that you can't require a purchase in order to win the prize. IE: Buy a lottery/raffle ticket, place a wager, require a buy-in. A person could walk into the bar and play for free and have just as much chance to win as anyone else. That satisfies the law since there is not a requirement to pay to play. This style of tournament is being used in around 20-30 bars throughout the state.

In order to do a raffle legally you'd need to do it in a way that didn't require a purchase. There would have to be an element that left it open to play for free.

Here is the Utah Code on the issue: http://le.utah.gov/code/TITLE76/htm/76_10_110100.htm

]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:45:10 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61344&PID=500866&title=monthly-raffle#500866 <![CDATA[Monthly raffle : Yes, CFA... Utah has some very...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61344&PID=500432&title=monthly-raffle#500432 Author: BobC63
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Posted: January 11 2013 at 8:46am

Yes, CFA... Utah has some very odd laws regarding 'gambling'.

Even on things like Bingo, for example.

In Utah to run Bingo you have to serve food at the establishment (with all the proper food permits, of course), and then charge customers only for the food and 'give away' the Bingo cards with each meal purchased, rather than run a conventional Bingo parlor where customers just go in and buy cards and then play Bingo.

And the Bingo 'prizes' cannot be cash; they have to be actual material things or gift certificates. No cash prizes allowed as that would be illegal under Utah state law.

]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2013 08:46:00 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61344&PID=500432&title=monthly-raffle#500432 <![CDATA[Monthly raffle : Thanks BobC63 and Disneymania....]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61344&PID=500431&title=monthly-raffle#500431 Author: ClownFishAddict
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Posted: January 11 2013 at 8:43am

Thanks BobC63 and Disneymania. at least I tried lol.]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2013 08:43:12 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61344&PID=500431&title=monthly-raffle#500431 <![CDATA[Monthly raffle : Yeah, if my memory is correct,...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61344&PID=500430&title=monthly-raffle#500430 Author: BobC63
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Posted: January 11 2013 at 8:40am

Yeah, if my memory is correct, the MWRF group wanted to do it for the Reef Fest and found out it was basically illegal to conduct an online raffle - even as a non - profit organization - according to Utah law.]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2013 08:40:58 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61344&PID=500430&title=monthly-raffle#500430