WMAS Discussion Forum : Help Ick that Won't Go Away. http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 06 Jul 2026 11:11:29 +0000 Sun, 25 Nov 2012 06:25:56 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.03 360 www.utahreefs.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=59739 <![CDATA[WMAS Discussion Forum]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/1by1.gif http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ <![CDATA[Help Ick that Won't Go Away. : Any time you make changes in the...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59739&PID=494480&title=help-ick-that-wont-go-away#494480 Author: Bluespotjawfish
Subject: 59739
Posted: November 25 2012 at 6:25am

Any time you make changes in the tank you stress the fish. Regular consistent maintenance and automation of your dosing will go a long way to reducing stress n your fish and corals. If you dont take the remaining fish out and treat dont bother buying new fish. They will be stressed and succomb to the ich. They will also stress out your existing fish and they could die as well. So, enjoy the ones you have if you dont want to bother.
Do you run a uv sterilizer?
I have had better luck with lower temps than high temps. Run mine at 78. Consistency is the key though.]]> Sun, 25 Nov 2012 06:25:56 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59739&PID=494480&title=help-ick-that-wont-go-away#494480 <![CDATA[Help Ick that Won't Go Away. : I know there will still be ick...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59739&PID=494477&title=help-ick-that-wont-go-away#494477 Author: Sculpin
Subject: 59739
Posted: November 25 2012 at 2:05am

I know there will still be ick but to be honest I'm not terribly worried. I've always had ick in my tank ever since I can remember, I just have never seen it this bad. My theory is that I either brought in a new strain of ick with the recent addition of fish or something changed in the tank environment that stressed all the fish causing an outbreak.

That said I'd love to get all the fish out and put in my QT but the fact is I would have to rip appart the whole tank just to get to them. I did think about fishing out my two remaining tangs with a very very small hook (i've done it once before) but I still have a firefish that is very timid and I don't think I could catch it.

I have set up Ozone on the tank, stabilized all my parameters, and the remaining fish have shown no signs of ick for the past month. I've already purchased a few fish and have them waiting in my QT tank and after a few weeks of observation, if they are healthy I'll pop them in one at a time in the display and see how they handle it.


Micah
]]> Sun, 25 Nov 2012 02:05:47 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59739&PID=494477&title=help-ick-that-wont-go-away#494477 <![CDATA[Help Ick that Won't Go Away. : Sculpin wrote:So I thought...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59739&PID=491628&title=help-ick-that-wont-go-away#491628 Author: Molli
Subject: 59739
Posted: November 01 2012 at 12:26pm

Originally posted by Sculpin Sculpin wrote:

So I thought I'd pop back in and give you guys an update. So after losing a powder blue tang, yellow tang, lemark angle, kleins butterfly, 3 clownfish, an anthia, and a royal gramma things seems to be settling down and almost back to normal. I've not done a water test recently but the PH is stabilized at 8.5 and the salinity was brought down to 1.022. The tank seems way empty though. all we have left is a firefish, a sailfin tang, and a blue tang.
 
If there is any way possible for you to remove the remaning 3 fish and put them in a hospital tank for an ample quarantine period and treat them for ich, this is your opportunity to finally rid your tank of ich.  Sorry you lost so many fish during this ordeal.]]> Thu, 01 Nov 2012 12:26:37 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59739&PID=491628&title=help-ick-that-wont-go-away#491628 <![CDATA[Help Ick that Won't Go Away. : Unless you remove all fish from...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59739&PID=491626&title=help-ick-that-wont-go-away#491626 Author: Bryce
Subject: 59739
Posted: November 01 2012 at 12:21pm

Unless you remove all fish from you tank for 8 weeks (some will say less, some will say more) then quarantining new fish will do nothing to deal with the ich you have in your tank and you will still have ich in your tank. It will however make sure any new fish you may add to your tank are healthy and have a better chance at dealing with the ich in the tank and they may show no symptoms unless they get stressed or sick.]]> Thu, 01 Nov 2012 12:21:32 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59739&PID=491626&title=help-ick-that-wont-go-away#491626 <![CDATA[Help Ick that Won't Go Away. : So I thought I&#039;d pop back...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59739&PID=491620&title=help-ick-that-wont-go-away#491620 Author: Sculpin
Subject: 59739
Posted: November 01 2012 at 11:56am

So I thought I'd pop back in and give you guys an update. So after losing a powder blue tang, yellow tang, lemark angle, kleins butterfly, 3 clownfish, an anthia, and a royal gramma things seems to be settling down and almost back to normal. I've not done a water test recently but the PH is stabilized at 8.5 and the salinity was brought down to 1.022. The tank seems way empty though. all we have left is a firefish, a sailfin tang, and a blue tang.

My mom took it pretty hard and doesn't want to get any new fish for a while and if we do we will quarantine every one of them.

As for the coral, they have faired great through this process and I have seen no problems what so ever. I'm still pretty confused as to what went wrong but whatever it was I hope we are past it now. We havent had any more deaths for about a week now (knock on wood).
]]> Thu, 01 Nov 2012 11:56:28 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59739&PID=491620&title=help-ick-that-wont-go-away#491620 <![CDATA[Help Ick that Won't Go Away. : Yeah, just remember to dose in...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59739&PID=490178&title=help-ick-that-wont-go-away#490178 Author: BobC63
Subject: 59739
Posted: October 19 2012 at 1:27pm

Yeah, just remember to dose in amounts that will not raise your alk by more than 1.0 dkh at a time. That will defintitely stress things out if you jumped an average of 3.0 dkh per dose
 
And the high pH is an issue, but also the swing in pH as well.  pH should not change more than 0.1 per 24 hour period through chemical means. Yours sounds like it may have been swinging as much as 0.3 or 0.4 daily
 
How are all your corals handling these changes? Do you have alot of SPS?
 
]]> Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:27:18 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59739&PID=490178&title=help-ick-that-wont-go-away#490178 <![CDATA[Help Ick that Won't Go Away. : It may of been over a month...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59739&PID=490177&title=help-ick-that-wont-go-away#490177 Author: Sculpin
Subject: 59739
Posted: October 19 2012 at 1:20pm

It may of been over a month and a half actually and my dosage was likely more concentrated then I usually do. The big issue was that I was lazy (i.e. I didn't keep track of when, how much, and how often I dosed). I saw low dkh, dosed heavy and am now in this mess. Plus I didn't realize high ph had such a negative effect on fish.


Micah


Edited by Sculpin - October 19 2012 at 1:22pm]]> Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:20:54 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59739&PID=490177&title=help-ick-that-wont-go-away#490177 <![CDATA[Help Ick that Won't Go Away. : wow, this is definitely an issue! ...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59739&PID=490176&title=help-ick-that-wont-go-away#490176 Author: bur01014
Subject: 59739
Posted: October 19 2012 at 1:17pm

wow, this is definitely an issue!]]> Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:17:30 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59739&PID=490176&title=help-ick-that-wont-go-away#490176 <![CDATA[Help Ick that Won't Go Away. : Micah - Did you say you raised...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59739&PID=490175&title=help-ick-that-wont-go-away#490175 Author: BobC63
Subject: 59739
Posted: October 19 2012 at 1:14pm

Micah -
 
Did you say you raised your alk from 8.6 to 14 within one month, and you did it by dosing 2 times within that month?
 
 
]]> Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:14:44 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59739&PID=490175&title=help-ick-that-wont-go-away#490175 <![CDATA[Help Ick that Won't Go Away. : My alk is now at 14 dkh (checked...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59739&PID=490174&title=help-ick-that-wont-go-away#490174 Author: Sculpin
Subject: 59739
Posted: October 19 2012 at 1:12pm

My alk is now at 14 dkh (checked a week ago so it's probably a bit lower now). I've not dosed since. I was dosing because it was down to 7.8 dkh (if I remember correctly) before several doses of buffer about a month ago. The mistake I made was dosing twice over the month without checking the dkh on the second dose. I think that is were I got in trouble.


Micah
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