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   <title><![CDATA[Good or Trash? : BTW fans are not just fans, you...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3016">rwccomptech</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 43191<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;07&nbsp;2010 at 12:34pm<br /><br />BTW fans are not just fans, you need to look at rpm vrs power consumption. Most of the fans you get for cooling on a light fixture have the same hardware as a computer fan, Anything with a higher rpm will be better. Their is also the chance that the fan will be advertised as a 3500rpm and when tested it only runs 1700rpm. Most companies will do this because on over clocking it can run that fast. If you buy something with cheaper components look for a cheaper result IMC.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Good or Trash? : R stands for &amp;#034;Reflector&amp;#034;. ...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=213">Will Spencer</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 43191<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;07&nbsp;2010 at 10:29am<br /><br />R stands for "Reflector".]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Good or Trash? : what does R stand for Reloaded?...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3017">SGH360</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 43191<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;06&nbsp;2010 at 3:15pm<br /><br /><DIV>what does R stand for Reloaded? Any info of what brands carry this fixture</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Good or Trash? :  Also, There are now PC-R tubes...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4">Mark Peterson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 43191<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;06&nbsp;2010 at 3:14pm<br /><br />Also, There are now PC-R tubes that do better than ordinary PC's with a reflector and can make coral look colorful too. If it was me, I'd take Wills offer. That's the best lighting for the $.<br>Oh and moonlights can be purchased at Walmart for $5<br><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Mark Peterson - September&nbsp;06&nbsp;2010 at 3:15pm</span>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Good or Trash? : they kinda look cool at night...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3017">SGH360</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 43191<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;06&nbsp;2010 at 12:19am<br /><br />they kinda look cool at night stimulate nightfall. honestly you can purcahse them seperatly, and get a good fixture.]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 00:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Good or Trash? : This may be off topic, but what...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2798">Luckedout</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 43191<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;06&nbsp;2010 at 12:14am<br /><br />This may be off topic, but what good are lunar lights anyways?&nbsp;]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Good or Trash? : Actually I would like to get rid...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=564">bugzme</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 43191<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;05&nbsp;2010 at 4:22pm<br /><br />Actually I would like to get rid of my Icecap 660 and change to 2 regular ones. I really don't like overdriving! The ends are already turning black and I have 3 fans running whenever the lights are on.]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 16:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Good or Trash? :    bugzme wrote:Apparently you...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2738">arthuriv</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 43191<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;05&nbsp;2010 at 4:17pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by bugzme" alt="Originally posted by bugzme" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>bugzme wrote:</strong><br /><br />Apparently you are pretty set on this fixture. I would really like to know how well it works.</td></tr></table><br><br>Its not that I'm set on this fixture, its just I like the idea of having the lunar lights tho I've never had them and the timer is just a bonus. Also I'm able to purchase this light at wholesale for a lot cheaper. I can also get the TEK's wholesale but only 36" and 48" at this time. Ultimately I would love to get one of the Ice Cap fixtures but they cost much more and I can't convince the wife to let me spend that much and if I do I have to let her spend that much as well. <br>Currently I'm running UV lighting T12 bulbs with an Ice Cap 660 ballast bulb I need new bulbs and would like to upgrade to T5's at this time and rewiring the 660 ballast to T5's and buying reflector cost as much as buying a fixture. So the idea is to eventurelly replace the ballast in any fixture I buy with the Ice Cap 660 ballasts and run UV lighting T5 V-HO bulbs.<br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 16:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Good or Trash? :    arthuriv wrote:Bulbs don&amp;#039;t...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1309">Ryan Thompson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 43191<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;05&nbsp;2010 at 4:14pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by arthuriv" alt="Originally posted by arthuriv" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>arthuriv wrote:</strong><br /><br />Bulbs don't count because I can put any bulbs I want in. I'm comparing hardware. The only real difference I believe there may be is ballast!! Reflectors are either made by the same company or made of the same material, but could possibly be formed differently. Fans are fans. What else is there to a T5 fixture not much but housing and extra luxuries! The AquaticLife fixture has LED lunar lights and a built in three way timer which TEK and ATI don't have. So I really don't see how they could be better!!!&nbsp;</td></tr></table><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Actually you are mistaken.</div><div><br></div><div>A fan may be a fan but how it cools the bulbs can be totally different. A T5 bulb needs to maintain a temperature of 95F at the cold spot for maximum performance. To date I haven't found another fixture outside of ATI that can do this.</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;A reflector isn't a just a reflector. Almost all of them are made out of different materials or coated differently. Also how they are shaped plays a huge role in how much light gets redirected back into the tank. A crappy design can cause what is called restrike. Where light hit the bulbs again and doesn't find its' way into the tank.</div><div><br></div><div>If a timer and lunar lights makes a fixture "better" to you. Then get that fixture. But what makes a fixture better to me and most others is how much light is it giving my corals.</div><div><br></div><div>Two very different ways to look at a fixture.</div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Good or Trash? : Apparently you are pretty set...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=564">bugzme</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 43191<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> September&nbsp;05&nbsp;2010 at 3:35pm<br /><br />Apparently you are pretty set on this fixture. I would really like to know how well it works.]]>
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