WMAS Discussion Forum : Hari Algae Help http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Thu, 18 Jun 2026 17:47:31 +0000 Wed, 15 Sep 2010 20:50:23 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.03 360 www.utahreefs.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=42989 <![CDATA[WMAS Discussion Forum]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/1by1.gif http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ <![CDATA[Hari Algae Help : Mark, I&#039;m only a few days...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42989&PID=375975&title=hari-algae-help#375975 Author: jw3571
Subject: 42989
Posted: September 15 2010 at 8:50pm

Mark, I'm only a few days in.  I waited until I did a water change and then used that water.  The hermits appear to be starting to mucn on the algae.  Let me know your thoughts on aquascaping, etc?  If you recall, i'm going to be setting up a 90g soon so I want to make sure i get my rock setup nicely in the new tank.]]> Wed, 15 Sep 2010 20:50:23 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42989&PID=375975&title=hari-algae-help#375975 <![CDATA[Hari Algae Help : It&#039;s been a week. What...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42989&PID=375967&title=hari-algae-help#375967 Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: 42989
Posted: September 15 2010 at 7:57pm

It's been a week. What kind of results are you seeing with the hermits?

Also, I needed to mention the aquascaping in this tank and the idea of opening up more sand or even making a suspended reef.


Edited by Mark Peterson - September 15 2010 at 8:01pm]]> Wed, 15 Sep 2010 19:57:29 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42989&PID=375967&title=hari-algae-help#375967 <![CDATA[Hari Algae Help : Yes, Hermits are scavengers...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42989&PID=374881&title=hari-algae-help#374881 Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: 42989
Posted: September 08 2010 at 11:01am

Yes, Hermits are scavengers so will eat whatever is available. If the only thing available is hair algae they will eat that. Once they get a taste for it they will be more likely to eat it in the tank, especially since feeding has been decreased.

Acclimating some snails is more difficult. I can simply toss Margarita snails in a tank and most of them will survive. Cerith are similar, but Astrea snails are very sensitive and must be acclimated and set right side up to survive. Of course, it's best to acclimate everything. The acclimation technique is in one of the "Tips" linked below.

Moving rock submerged is a very important thing to understand. Air kills the life that is in LIVE Rock. Dead LR creates all sorts of pollution in a tank. Again, look in the thread linked below and find the part about moving LR without letting it touch the air and also look for the "twist, turn and shake".



Edited by Mark Peterson - September 08 2010 at 11:02am]]> Wed, 08 Sep 2010 11:01:58 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42989&PID=374881&title=hari-algae-help#374881 <![CDATA[Hari Algae Help : Chris Scott wrote: DLindquist...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42989&PID=374829&title=hari-algae-help#374829 Author: DLindquist
Subject: 42989
Posted: September 07 2010 at 10:40pm

Originally posted by Chris Scott Chris Scott wrote:

Originally posted by DLindquist DLindquist wrote:

All tanks are different but- I have a 90 gallon with 0 crabs & 0 snails. I had a yellow tang & coral beauty but just sold them as I prepare for my new shipment of fish. Hopefully I will not have to load up on snails or crabs as I am not a big fan either.


Wow, how do you get away with no snails or crabs?  A large refugium, (6"x9"x22" incorporated into my custom built sump) deep sandbed, (3") big skimmer, (Something like a MG3 with a G500 pump?) etc?
 

Thanks,
 My tank went 2 weeks with no fish and I did see some algae accumulation. Took a toothbrush to it and it is gone. I have ordered in 10 snails and 20 crabs just to be safe until I get the tank stocked with my new fish.


Edited by DLindquist - September 07 2010 at 10:41pm]]> Tue, 07 Sep 2010 22:40:12 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42989&PID=374829&title=hari-algae-help#374829 <![CDATA[Hari Algae Help : Mark, I don&#039;t mind giving...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42989&PID=374824&title=hari-algae-help#374824 Author: jw3571
Subject: 42989
Posted: September 07 2010 at 9:50pm

Mark,
 
I don't mind giving this a shot.  Just so I'm clear, we're in effect training the hermits to eat the hair algae?  Also, I don't know either of your questions. I'd love to hear the answers. 
]]> Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:50:22 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42989&PID=374824&title=hari-algae-help#374824 <![CDATA[Hari Algae Help : For everyone to learn some more...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42989&PID=374815&title=hari-algae-help#374815 Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: 42989
Posted: September 07 2010 at 8:46pm

For everyone to learn some more algae control techniques, I hope that jw3571 doesn't mind that we talk about it here:

 In answer to my PM query he said:
I would guess I have 40-50 snails and probably 25 hermits. It seems the hermits kill the snails really fast. I do have a bunch of empty shells laying around but the hermits still kill the snails. I have not heard about suspended reefs or the tripod method of aquascaping. Thanks again.

And now my response:
Wonderful. Good information. We can work with that. Hermits that are eating snails may be very hungry and some snails may not have made it. Hermits are really good at sniffing out snails that are on the way out. Ordinarily, I would suggest trading 15 Hermit Crabs for 15 more Snails. But in this case we can make use of those Hermits. By the way, do you know how to acclimate snails for better survivalQuestion

Okay, remove 15 of the Hermit crabs to a separate container/bucket. Move in a little LS from the tank and a small piece of LR, especially one with some hair algae on it, into the container. Set the rock at the outside so as the Hermits walk around the outside perimeter of the container, they will find the rock.

If you have an air pump and airstone, run that in the container to provide some water circulation. Or a small powerhead works too. Set it on the bottom pointing straight up. If you don't have either, let me know and I'll loan you one of mine. 

Set the container in the dark. No heater is needed so long as the temperature is 68-80. Leave it alone for several days, checking it's progress daily. Let me know how it goes so we can tweak the process if necessary. Coral living on the rock will be fine with a few days of darkness.

Soon the hermits should clean the algae off the rock. When they do, replace that rock and 10 of the hermits back into the tank with another rock and and as many of the other hermits as possible. (Hermits can be located easily as they move around soon after feeding the tank.) Repeat the process if necessary and if possible. Some of the rocks may be too large too move out. By the way, do you know about moving LR so it doesn't get air in it to cause die-offQuestion

This procedure will not only help clean some rocks, it will teach the Hermits to enjoy algae. The rocks that are too large to move into the separate container may get more attention from the Hermits after you move them back into the tank.

Okay, if you don't mind, let me know if you can do this and let's see how well this works before taking the next step.Smile
]]> Tue, 07 Sep 2010 20:46:32 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42989&PID=374815&title=hari-algae-help#374815 <![CDATA[Hari Algae Help : Where did you go jw3571? ]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42989&PID=374660&title=hari-algae-help#374660 Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: 42989
Posted: September 06 2010 at 1:47pm

Where did you go jw3571?]]> Mon, 06 Sep 2010 13:47:41 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42989&PID=374660&title=hari-algae-help#374660 <![CDATA[Hari Algae Help : That&#039;s a great suggestion....]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42989&PID=373861&title=hari-algae-help#373861 Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: 42989
Posted: August 31 2010 at 10:04am

That's a great suggestion. After you do that call me and I'll help you place them back in the tank  a way that will help with eliminating the hair algae. My number is below in the sig. line]]> Tue, 31 Aug 2010 10:04:06 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42989&PID=373861&title=hari-algae-help#373861 <![CDATA[Hari Algae Help : Pull your powerheads out of the...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42989&PID=373670&title=hari-algae-help#373670 Author: CapnMorgan
Subject: 42989
Posted: August 29 2010 at 9:53pm

Pull your powerheads out of the tank and soak them in hydrogen peroxide for 30 min. That will kill ALL of the algae growing on them, then you can rinse them off in some RO and return them to the tank.]]> Sun, 29 Aug 2010 21:53:26 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42989&PID=373670&title=hari-algae-help#373670 <![CDATA[Hari Algae Help : Please call me as soon as you...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42989&PID=373669&title=hari-algae-help#373669 Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: 42989
Posted: August 29 2010 at 9:42pm

Please call me as soon as you read this. We have a lot more to discuss than I can easily write. I'm a slow typist. Embarrassed]]> Sun, 29 Aug 2010 21:42:33 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42989&PID=373669&title=hari-algae-help#373669