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   <title><![CDATA[newbie needs help : 3 inches should be enough. I agree...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2744">CapnMorgan</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 35808<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October&nbsp;16&nbsp;2009 at 4:02am<br /><br />3 inches should be enough. I agree with Dion that the tank just needs to balance out and mature. When I set up my tank I didn't have anything but rock and sand in it for about 5 weeks, then added cleanup crew, then slowly built up the bioload with careful monitoring of nh3, no3, no2 etc. I run my tank at 76degrees, but even when it does reach 80 it doesn't seem to bother anything. But above 80 kick on the fan above the sump]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[newbie needs help : not real sure if thats my really...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 35808<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October&nbsp;16&nbsp;2009 at 3:34am<br /><br />not real sure if thats my really what my alkalinity is im just kinda guessing since all i have is test strips and its not as dark as the 300 reading but darker than the 200 reading. i have about 3 inches of sand in it, hopefully thats enough. im not going to add anymore fish for now, ill wait and see if the things i have in it right now survive. thanks for all the help and ill update if i have anymore questions.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[newbie needs help : I would also add some more sand...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2744">CapnMorgan</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 35808<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October&nbsp;15&nbsp;2009 at 7:19pm<br /><br />I would also add some more sand if it were my tank. I have about a 3.5-4" sand bed in my 65 with a plenum]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[newbie needs help : From what I&amp;#039;m reading. You&amp;#039;ve...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=861">Dion Richins</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 35808<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October&nbsp;15&nbsp;2009 at 7:10pm<br /><br /><P>From what I'm reading. You've had this tank up for 2 months with fish in it the whole time? Your ammonia had to have been very high for some time. 30lbs of dead rock and 80lbs of crushed coral. You have to cycle all of this. There is die off in the rock, bacteria blooms etc. </P><DIV>Just comes down to the excitement factor with a tank that wasn't ready. Take some water to the lfs and have it tested. Wait 2-4 weeks before adding any fish. Add some snails and crabs if you need it for algae control.(if its out of hand its a sign of issues)</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>You need to clean out the mag once a week. The poop and other unwanteds are fermenting in there and can/do cause issues with water quality. Your sump/fuge will do wonders for your tank. </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Also do what you can to cool the tank off. I run mine at 73-76 at all times. I worry if it gets to 80 and would be having fits at 82. I know many run their tanks at that temp and higher with out any issues but it worries me. (higher temps= higher metabolism, more poop etc.)</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Again its just my opinion. </DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[newbie needs help : 280 ppm Alk is almost 16 dKH (5.6...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4">Mark Peterson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 35808<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October&nbsp;15&nbsp;2009 at 6:21pm<br /><br />280 ppm Alk <img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley18.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Ouch" title="Ouch" />&nbsp;is almost 16 dKH (5.6 meq/l). The recommended range is <DIV>8-14 dkh/ </DIV><DIV>140- 250 ppm</DIV><DIV>2.8-5.0 meq/l</DIV><DIV>What supplements have you been adding? Stop adding all supplements and let the Alkalinity settle down on it's own. It may take a couple weeks. Also check the Calcium which should fall between the range of 350-450 ppm. Let us know so we can help you know how to keep the levels where they should be.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>As Dion said many of those were&nbsp;risky fish to have in a tank that young.</DIV><DIV>As a reef aquarium matures it stabilizes and becomes a healthier environent. In a new tank that is set up properly,&nbsp;it's not the Nitrogen compounds that are a problem and usually not the Alkalinity, the&nbsp;Calcium or even the pH.&nbsp;Tank health improves with age reaching optimum after a year. It's hard to describe but a lot of the tips and clues to this are found in the thread below. I recommend reading the entire thread and the extra links as well.&nbsp;There is a link to some good information regarding Ich that you&nbsp;will be glad&nbsp;you&nbsp;know before adding the next fish. Which, btw can be added immediately but don't overdo it.</DIV><DIV>You have come to the right place for making this tank enjoyable.<img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Star" title="Star" /></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244" target="_blank">http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244</A></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>A comment regarding Temperature. I have found it best to set the heater to come on at 75. The tank does very well at 75 and then there is less risk of it going over 80 by the end of the day. I try to keep my tanks from going over 80 because that seems to be the point at which many coral start to show stress. When the temperature is over 80 in a reef tank without robust circulation, fish are okay but coral get bothered. </DIV><DIV>Hope this helps.<img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /></DIV><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Mark Peterson - October&nbsp;15&nbsp;2009 at 6:32pm</span>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[newbie needs help : Well there goes the suffocation...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1131">dduts</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 35808<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October&nbsp;15&nbsp;2009 at 5:53pm<br /><br />Well there goes the suffocation theory. I'm out <img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /><DIV>Disease/ toxins? Anything around the tank? Do you use fresh activated carbon?</DIV><DIV>Not familar with that ppm reading for alk. Did you get the meg/l reading? I doubt that's the issue for you though. Sorry, I'm out of ideas</DIV>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[newbie needs help : also im wondering is there anything...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 35808<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October&nbsp;15&nbsp;2009 at 5:45pm<br /><br />also im wondering is there anything i can put in the tank for the snails and crabs to feed on since i dont have any fish now and probably wont put any in for atleast a couple weeks.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[newbie needs help :  no i dont have a glass top,...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 35808<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October&nbsp;15&nbsp;2009 at 5:24pm<br /><br />no i dont have a glass top, i have my powerdeads pointed slightly up so cause some movement on top. <br>nitrates are between 20 and 30 ppm<br>nitrites are 0<br>alkalinity about 280 ppm<br>ph 8.3 to 8.5<br>salinity 1.022 to 1.024<br>temp is 79 in the morning and after the light has been on all day its about 82.<br><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by 93_fd - October&nbsp;15&nbsp;2009 at 5:47pm</span>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[newbie needs help : temp and salinity results would...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1131">dduts</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 35808<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October&nbsp;15&nbsp;2009 at 5:20pm<br /><br /><P>temp and salinity results would help too? </P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[newbie needs help :   93_fd wrote:i tested for nitrate,...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1131">dduts</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 35808<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October&nbsp;15&nbsp;2009 at 4:32pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by 93_fd" alt="Originally posted by 93_fd" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>93_fd wrote:</strong><br /><br />i tested for nitrate, nitrite, ph and alkalinity.&nbsp;......................</td></tr></table> <DIV>What were the actual results?&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>My guess would be&nbsp;you have/had a low Ph with that bio load and need for more flow. You need good oxygen exchange. The fish may have suffocated. Do you by chance have a glass top on the tank?</DIV>]]>
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