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   <title><![CDATA[Confused help with refugium please 29g : thanks everybody I think I will...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1372">skibum801</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13303<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> August&nbsp;03&nbsp;2006 at 11:32pm<br /><br />thanks everybody I think I will pull my baffles and put it in some sort of container&nbsp;]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Confused help with refugium please 29g :   bbeck4x4 wrote:what about using...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4">Mark Peterson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13303<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July&nbsp;27&nbsp;2006 at 7:37pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by bbeck4x4" alt="Originally posted by bbeck4x4" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>bbeck4x4 wrote:</strong><br /><br />what about using those plastic baskets that are for a swamp cooler?... microbubbles...</td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The idea is to keep sand away from the powerhead intake. The small box sitting on the sand (or partially submerged if&nbsp;it's a shallow Refugium) is the best method I've found.<img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Macroalgae, especially chaetomorpha, when it fills in the entire Refugium, is excellent at stopping microbubbles. Better than baffles, IMO. There are buckets of free Chaeto available in this group.<img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"></DIV><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Mark Peterson - July&nbsp;27&nbsp;2006 at 7:39pm</span>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Confused help with refugium please 29g : what about using those plastic...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=955">bbeck4x4</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13303<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July&nbsp;26&nbsp;2006 at 10:33pm<br /><br />what about using those plastic baskets that are for a swamp cooler?, seems to me that they would work better than just a plastic box, I used baffles when I designed mine, but I was trying to get rid of microbubbles also.<br><br><br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Confused help with refugium please 29g : Shane is right on with the overflow...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1151">Gahlenfr</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13303<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July&nbsp;26&nbsp;2006 at 10:30pm<br /><br />Shane is right on with the overflow answer.&nbsp; When I set mine up I had no idea what the water level would be until I tested it.&nbsp; I knew that it would drain down to just below my durso but did not factor in my sea swirl siphoning down below the outlet.&nbsp; My system handled it just fine but every single&nbsp;setup is different.&nbsp; I would also do a closed loop on a different power outlet than the return pump.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Confused help with refugium please 29g : Baffles are not really needed....]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4">Mark Peterson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13303<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July&nbsp;26&nbsp;2006 at 9:46pm<br /><br />Baffles are not really needed. To leave more room for the refugium, place the Rio and Mag in plastic food containers on the sand. ]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Confused help with refugium please 29g : Im useing a 29 on my 65. If you...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=861">Dion Richins</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13303<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July&nbsp;25&nbsp;2006 at 12:01am<br /><br />Im useing a 29 on my 65. If you want to come and look your more than welcome. I can tell you why it was built the way it is and show you what I would do different next time around.]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 00:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Confused help with refugium please 29g : The question of how much room...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=100">Shane H</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13303<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July&nbsp;24&nbsp;2006 at 11:54pm<br /><br />The question of how much room to leave to avoid an overflow in the event of a power outage is best answered by testing your system.&nbsp;It is difficult to know without trying it.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Also, I like the idea of using&nbsp;one of your two pumps&nbsp;as a closed loop with the other as a return.&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 23:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Confused help with refugium please 29g : have you looked at www.melevsreef.com?here...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=955">bbeck4x4</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13303<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July&nbsp;24&nbsp;2006 at 8:48pm<br /><br />have you looked at www.melevsreef.com?<br>&nbsp;here is another link<br><br><a href="http://www.dfwmas.org/Forums/viewtopic.php?t=10304&amp;sid=49f3ccbf1ab46f01ab7503611152001f" target="_blank">http://www.dfwmas.org/Forums/viewtopic.php?t=10304&amp;sid=49f3ccbf1ab46f01ab7503611152001f</a><br><br><br><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by bbeck4x4 - July&nbsp;24&nbsp;2006 at 8:49pm</span>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Confused help with refugium please 29g : maybe do you think I should do...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1372">skibum801</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13303<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July&nbsp;24&nbsp;2006 at 8:18pm<br /><br />maybe do you think I should do closed loop with my mag12 and run the refug with rio]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Confused help with refugium please 29g : hey guys and gals I have a 90g...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1372">skibum801</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13303<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> July&nbsp;24&nbsp;2006 at 8:04pm<br /><br />hey guys and gals I have a 90g with dual overflow drains. I also haveplumbing and a t to put both drains into a filter sock. I am using amag 12 and a rio2500 for returns. I will be running them up theexterior back of the tank. If some body could help tell me how theywould do the baffles.&nbsp; I also curious how many high the bafflesshould be to leave room for water in case of power failure. should Iput the refugium part on one end with one of the two drains to fill andthe other drain to my filter sock. that way I could have my refugiumdeeper, and the water from refug overflowing into the sock part andlastly a compartment for my pumps,&nbsp; skimmer ,etc.....the refugwill be a 29g standard tank ( biggest question is how many gallons toleave empty)<br>thanks everybody for the help&nbsp; Frank&nbsp; <img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0" align="middle"><img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0" align="middle"><br>]]>
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