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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=92">rfoote</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1165<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October&nbsp;24&nbsp;2003 at 2:46pm<br /><br /><img border="0" src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=92">rfoote</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1165<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October&nbsp;24&nbsp;2003 at 2:43pm<br /><br /> <img border="0" src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif" border="0"> <span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by rfoote</span>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Activated Carb&#111;n In Filtrati&#111;n :   rfoote wrote:R+M/2  Smarta@@...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=96">jfinch</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1165<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October&nbsp;24&nbsp;2003 at 2:16pm<br /><br /><P><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by rfoote" alt="Originally posted by rfoote" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>rfoote wrote:</strong><br /><br /><A href="http://cartalk.cars.com/Columns/Archive/2003/August/03.html" target="_blank">R+M/2</A></td></tr></table> </P><P>Smarta@@&nbsp; <IMG src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0">&nbsp; </P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Activated Carb&#111;n In Filtrati&#111;n : Ryan... ... and I am standing!...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=240">Carl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1165<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October&nbsp;24&nbsp;2003 at 11:57am<br /><br />Ryan...&nbsp; <IMG src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" border="0">... and I am standing!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=92">rfoote</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1165<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October&nbsp;24&nbsp;2003 at 10:01am<br /><br /><a href="http://cartalk.cars.com/Columns/Archive/2003/August/03.html" target="_blank">R+M/2</a>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Activated Carb&#111;n In Filtrati&#111;n : How long do you leave it in for?...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=96">jfinch</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1165<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October&nbsp;24&nbsp;2003 at 9:50am<br /><br /><P>How long do you leave it in for?&nbsp; Do you use it passive (in a sock in the sump) or active (in a canister with pumped water passing through)?</P><P><strong>Let's talk about the petroleum industry again...</strong> </P><P>Ya, what the h*ll does an oil man know about water anyway?&nbsp; Let's change the topic... Anyone know what the "R+M/2" octane rating on the gas pump means? <IMG src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley18.gif" border="0"></P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Activated Carb&#111;n In Filtrati&#111;n : JF, I guess that I will need to...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=240">Carl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1165<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October&nbsp;24&nbsp;2003 at 7:58am<br /><br /><P>JF, I guess that I will need to check into this a bit. True, pores will fill with organisms as easily as contaminants. However, there is a bit more to it than that I would believe. Not being a chemist, biologist or micro organism...ist...guy... I cannot offer an educated answer right now. Realistically, backflushing is key to extending the life of media. If this is done (by hose or other means), I would personally believe that the media's life is being cut too short. Additionally, using a prefilter that is cleaned periodically will help, let's say filtering to 1 to 5 micron nominal. Pressurizing through the media also helps.</P><P>But hey, if it works for you... Personally, I leave mine in for A LOT longer than you do... so far so good. Wanna test my water?</P><P>Let's talk about the petroleum industry again... <IMG src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" border="0">&nbsp;<IMG src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif" border="0">&nbsp;<IMG src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0">&nbsp;<IMG src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"></P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Activated Carb&#111;n In Filtrati&#111;n :   jfinch wrote: OCl- + C = CO2...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=96">jfinch</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1165<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October&nbsp;23&nbsp;2003 at 9:44pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by jfinch" alt="Originally posted by jfinch" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>jfinch wrote:</strong><br /><br /><P>OCl-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; +&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; C&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; CO2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; +&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Cl-<BR>chlorine&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Activated&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Carbon&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Chloride Ion<BR>(as chlorate)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Carbon&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Dioxide&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (harmless)</P><P></td></tr></table> </P><P><IMG src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif" border="0">&nbsp; I seem to have messed up the equation (that's why I graduated&nbsp;in chemical <EM>engineering</EM>, not chemistry <IMG src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0">).&nbsp; Thanks Gonzo for seeing that!&nbsp; I'm glad someone was actually looking at it...&nbsp; It should be:</P><P>2 OCl-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; +&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; C&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; CO2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; +&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2 Cl-</P><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by jfinch</span>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Activated Carb&#111;n In Filtrati&#111;n : Yes, adsorbtion is the reason...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=96">jfinch</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1165<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October&nbsp;23&nbsp;2003 at 9:28pm<br /><br /><P>Yes, adsorbtion is the reason I use it.&nbsp; Oh you were getting at the longitivity issue... we may dissagree here <IMG src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0">.&nbsp; Here's a past&nbsp;thread where we talked about this:&nbsp; <A href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1006" target="_blank">http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1006</A>.&nbsp; Here's a quote from my post explaining my belief:</P><P><EM>I think that when using the same bag of carbon for more then a week&nbsp;it's just working as substrate for bacteria.&nbsp; The average pore size (diameter) is much much smaller then a single bacteria.&nbsp; Once bacteria are established on the carbon surface they act like a "cover" over the surface keeping organic molecules from permeating into the active sites.&nbsp; Therefore,&nbsp;when I&nbsp;use carbon I use&nbsp;a small amount and change it every week and when I do a water change.</EM></P><P>I assumed the comments above were more directed at culinary water where bacteria growth&nbsp;is not an issue.&nbsp; If it weren't for the bacteria, I think carbon could last very long indeed.&nbsp; Some people suggest pulling the carbon bag out of the sump every week and "smashing" it against the counter top to break it up a bit and expose new surfaces to extend it's life.&nbsp; I'm problably in the minority when it comes to this...</P><P>(not Culligan Man... how 'bout Kinetico Man <IMG src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0">)</P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Activated Carb&#111;n In Filtrati&#111;n : LOL... Thanks for the scientific...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=240">Carl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1165<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> October&nbsp;23&nbsp;2003 at 8:28pm<br /><br /><P>LOL... Thanks for the scientific input JF! I did know that GAC actually reacted to/with chlorine, but wanted to dig a bit into the myth that it was very short lived as filtrate. It is quite effective as a media and has&nbsp;significant longevity. Adsorbtion is probably it's largest role in filtration, I am sure that you would agree. I must say though, not thrilled with the Culligan Man reference. <IMG src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"></P><P>Sean, what it means is that GAC is a good thing. It's truly beneficial to a filtration system, although maybe not necessary in many setups. Don't fear the carbon!</P>]]>
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