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 Posted: February 24 2015 at 9:37pm |
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I was hoping to get HIS specific spreadsheet with his data :)
Just curious to see the numbers in detail :) |
If you IM me your email I will send you what I have to date.
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Posted: February 24 2015 at 9:42pm |
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Not to revive a dead post but I have to Dose 150ml of alk a day so 70 is not bad at all |
Not the quantity I was concerned with. It was that i didn't need calcium. I see on the BRS videos and they say to add the same amount of each. I am dosing 4 ml a day now of each and numbers are good. Will continue this for another week and see where I am at. I am just now starting to getting coralline on the rocks.
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Posted: February 24 2015 at 10:02pm |
relethg wrote:
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Not to revive a dead post but I have to Dose 150ml of alk a day so 70 is not bad at all |
Not the quantity I was concerned with. It was that i didn't need calcium. I see on the BRS videos and they say to add the same amount of each. I am dosing 4 ml a day now of each and numbers are good. Will continue this for another week and see where I am at. I am just now starting to getting coralline on the rocks. |
Coralline already they grow up so fast soon you will have aiptasia blooming in bad places  sarcasm aside when my tank has one up but not the other I blame the RO water from my local grocery store  In short it must be getting one from somewhere just a thought
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Posted: February 24 2015 at 10:08pm |
I make my own water and it test at 0 TDS. I think it is just the tank being a little over 2 months young. Here is a picture of my RO/DI and salt mixing setup. The RO/DI is plumbed up to the 16 gallon ATO reservoir.
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Posted: February 24 2015 at 10:38pm |
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The wine glass is really the finishing touch
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Up North: Bill ( Saltwater Paradise 801-317-8115 )
Down South: Jerry ( Reef On 801-563-0600 )
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Posted: February 25 2015 at 8:03am |
Pete Moss wrote:
The wine glass is really the finishing touch |
That or a beer glass follows me around.
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Posted: February 25 2015 at 6:41pm |
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Posted: March 13 2015 at 10:01am |
Here is an update. The tank is now almost 3 months young. I have been very happy with the stability of the tank. I now dose Alk and Mag 10Ml a day. I still think my PH is constantly lower than it should be.
Any thought or comments are welcome.
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Posted: March 13 2015 at 11:34am |
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What do you use to dose for your magnesium? I had this same problem until I stopped dosing just magnesium sulfate and added magnesium chloride a ratio of 5:3 chloride to sulfate. Since adding the chloride I dosed 1 time and it stays stable ever since . It's been a month now so just my .02
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Posted: March 13 2015 at 11:42am |
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Your ph is fine, mine is lower, 2.5 year old tank over 30 different sps colonies, add a c02 scruber to your skimmer if the number simply bothers you.
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Posted: March 13 2015 at 11:47am |
Reefer4Ever wrote:
What do you use to dose for your magnesium? I had this same problem until I stopped dosing just magnesium sulfate and added magnesium chloride a ratio of 5:3 chloride to sulfate. Since adding the chloride I dosed 1 time and it stays stable ever since . It's been a month now so just my .02 |
I mag dose magnesium sulfate and magnesium chloride mix. I don't know the ratio, but it is the BRS mix. I will check to see what their ratio is. The PH has stayed the same even before I ever dosed Mag. It is not C02 either, tank is upstairs and I tried C02 scrubber with no change in PH.
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Posted: March 13 2015 at 1:47pm |
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Read this article my tank us always 7.8. In fact read every article you can by this dude http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-09/rhf/
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Posted: March 13 2015 at 2:23pm |
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What kind of salt do you use? I haven't had a need to dose Mag but I do dose Cal & Alk daily. I honestly don't know how much I dose since its powder and I have to dilute it with water.
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Posted: March 13 2015 at 6:08pm |
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Read this article my tank us always 7.8. In fact read every article you can by this dude http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-09/rhf/
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Great article and have read the article about 5 times and many of his other articles. That is one reason I am not that concerned. My PH ranges from about 7.75 to 8 over a 24 hour period. That is the norm for my tank so I keep my eyes peeled for changes outside that range or sudden changes in PH.
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Posted: March 13 2015 at 6:14pm |
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What kind of salt do you use? I haven't had a need to dose Mag but I do dose Cal & Alk daily. I honestly don't know how much I dose since its powder and I have to dilute it with water. |
I use Oceanic sea salt, natural mix. I have dosed very little mag and just recently. I did not touch it until I got the all and Ca very close to what I wanted. I use a doser and have been working toward a stable number for about three weeks. Once the coraline algae showed up usage of alc and ca increased. I still don't use much. 10ml a day of each. I am shooting to keep the tanks top three as stable as possible. I felt that once everything else was good I should focus on them.
Not sure if you noticed I am doing monthly 10% water changes. That is what I want to do and know many will say that is not enough. I like the stability of dosing, AC, GFO, skimmer and refugum. I am getting to the point I can turn the GFO and skimmer off every other day.
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Posted: March 14 2015 at 8:54am |
I wish I were as smart as Ph.D Chemist Randy Holmes-Farley. We look to him for all our chemistry information. We used to have a Chemical Engineer in the club by the name of Jon Finch. His help was always invaluable. (Me, I'm just a dumb farmer with the wrong degrees for this stuff.) Randy's article partly explains why I have not tested pH for over 10 years. There really is very little need so long as 1) Alk is maintained, 2) good gas exchange is provided by surface water agitation and 3) oxygenation is assisted by Macroalgae producing O2 when illuminated.
 Am I correct that Oceanic still makes that salt with high Ca? In my systems, using Utah Sand, the Ca is kept high because of the sand, so I use the less expensive regular IO salt and have an automatic dosing unit for Alk only. Mg is also buffered by the Utah Sand, so I rarely need to add Mg.
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Posted: March 15 2015 at 3:37pm |
relethg wrote:
... skimmer and refugum. I am getting to the point I can turn the GFO and skimmer off every other day.
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Hi. I was just curious. Just trying to gather data for my own use to know if my stuff is in line since we are so close to each other and running a similar set up.
From peoples tanks I have seen, if your tank is clean and the parameters/algae (little to none) is good, then there is no need to do a water change often. I wouldn't do water changes often but I keep experimenting with food and since I overfeed, I do water changes weekly.
Thanks for the info.
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Posted: March 15 2015 at 6:57pm |
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... skimmer and refugum. I am getting to the point I can turn the GFO and skimmer off every other day.
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Hi. I was just curious. Just trying to gather data for my own use to know if my stuff is in line since we are so close to each other and running a similar set up.
From peoples tanks I have seen, if your tank is clean and the parameters/algae (little to none) is good, then there is no need to do a water change often. I wouldn't do water changes often but I keep experimenting with food and since I overfeed, I do water changes weekly.
Thanks for the info.
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I feel the same way about water changes.
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Posted: March 15 2015 at 6:59pm |
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invaluable. (Me, I'm just a dumb farmer with the wrong degrees for this stuff.) Randy's article partly explains why I have not tested pH for over 10 years. There really is very little need so long as 1) Alk is maintained, 2) good gas exchange is provided by surface water agitation and 3) oxygenation is assisted by Macroalgae producing O2 when illuminated.
Am I correct that Oceanic still makes that salt with high Ca? In my systems, using Utah Sand, the Ca is kept high because of the sand, so I use the less expensive regular IO salt and have an automatic dosing unit for Alk only. Mg is also buffered by the Utah Sand, so I rarely need to add Mg.
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This is what Oceanic test for me when mixed to 1.024 salinity. Alk 9.5 DKH Ca 470 Mag 1240
The numbers are a little higher than what I want, but I have 14 gallons left and need to look for a salt closer to what my tank is at.
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