WMAS Discussion Forum : Overskimming and Redundancy thoughts http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Thu, 30 Jul 2026 00:47:41 +0000 Thu, 10 Mar 2011 06:36:15 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.03 360 www.utahreefs.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=47257 <![CDATA[WMAS Discussion Forum]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/1by1.gif http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ <![CDATA[Overskimming and Redundancy thoughts : I am no expert I don&#039;t know...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47257&PID=404475&title=overskimming-and-redundancy-thoughts#404475 Author: The Kid
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Posted: March 10 2011 at 6:36am

I am no expert I don't know if you can overskim.  Seems like this would be a good article on the rate of diminishing return, in terms of costs, ie elecricity, time, cost of equipment and maintenance of equipment and additives to replace what was taken out., vs the amount of junk removed and its supposed benifits to the system.  That being said I wish I had a back up skimmer in the garage. And a sump big enough for 5 skimmers Wink

]]> Thu, 10 Mar 2011 06:36:15 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47257&PID=404475&title=overskimming-and-redundancy-thoughts#404475 <![CDATA[Overskimming and Redundancy thoughts : Both of you, Adam and Brad, have...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47257&PID=403190&title=overskimming-and-redundancy-thoughts#403190 Author: Mark Peterson
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Posted: March 02 2011 at 10:06pm

Both of you, Adam and Brad, have so many fish, I too would be worried if even one gadget went down for repair.]]> Wed, 02 Mar 2011 22:06:23 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47257&PID=403190&title=overskimming-and-redundancy-thoughts#403190 <![CDATA[Overskimming and Redundancy thoughts : In my last tank I ran the skimmers...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47257&PID=403177&title=overskimming-and-redundancy-thoughts#403177 Author: Adam Blundell
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Posted: March 02 2011 at 9:07pm

In my last tank I ran the skimmers in the stand in the sump.  So I was limited on height.  I couldn't have a massive skimmer... so I had many.  Plus you can get them so cheap if you just keep watching this board. (I have three ASM skimmers in my garage right now)

And for me having my skimmer go down was scary.  Imagine if Brad's skimmer went down for a few days.  So I liked the idea of super skimming (plus I feed a lot of food to my fish).  

Adam
]]> Wed, 02 Mar 2011 21:07:43 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47257&PID=403177&title=overskimming-and-redundancy-thoughts#403177 <![CDATA[Overskimming and Redundancy thoughts : Is there a reason you run multiple...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47257&PID=403173&title=overskimming-and-redundancy-thoughts#403173 Author: tcfab
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Posted: March 02 2011 at 8:48pm

Is there a reason you run multiple skimmers? Are the ones you are running not rated for the size tank you have? What type of skimmers are they?]]> Wed, 02 Mar 2011 20:48:10 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47257&PID=403173&title=overskimming-and-redundancy-thoughts#403173 <![CDATA[Overskimming and Redundancy thoughts : With all of my fish and all the...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47257&PID=403154&title=overskimming-and-redundancy-thoughts#403154 Author: tileman
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Posted: March 02 2011 at 6:11pm

With all of my fish and all the feeding I do.  My skimmer works pretty hard.
I cleaned my skimmer and changed out my media in my Bio-denitrator yesterday.  And this is how much gunk has been produced in less than 24 hrs.




]]> Wed, 02 Mar 2011 18:11:04 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47257&PID=403154&title=overskimming-and-redundancy-thoughts#403154 <![CDATA[Overskimming and Redundancy thoughts : I think it all depends on what...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47257&PID=403152&title=overskimming-and-redundancy-thoughts#403152 Author: tileman
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Posted: March 02 2011 at 6:02pm

I think it all depends on what you want as for quality of water.  There is always nutrients being added to your tank. I think 10 skimmers is way overboard.  But if all 10 are pulling gunk out of the watercolumn, well then 10 is good. But if 1 phosphate reactor has your phosphates reading zero why would you need more?  Same with ozone.  If you have a big enough reactor to keep your orp up, then why would you run 2?  If 1 isn't enough to keep your perameters where you want them, then add another.]]> Wed, 02 Mar 2011 18:02:55 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47257&PID=403152&title=overskimming-and-redundancy-thoughts#403152 <![CDATA[Overskimming and Redundancy thoughts : Okay so this is a little abstract...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47257&PID=403146&title=overskimming-and-redundancy-thoughts#403146 Author: Adam Blundell
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Posted: March 02 2011 at 5:19pm

Okay so this is a little abstract and advanced, but hopefully we'll get some comments.

I've always been one to say that you can't overskim.  It just isn't possible.  And on my last tank as some of you may remember I had a whopping 5 skimmers running on it.  Anyway I've been wondering lately about the point of diminishing returns.  If I had 10 skimmers, and removed one and went to 9 skimmers, I don't think it would make much of a difference.  Now if I went from 10 skimmers and 0 phosphate reactors and swapped out a skimmer and then had 9 skimmers and 1 phosphate reactor that would almost certainly be better.  
What if I ran 5 skimmers and 5 phosban reactors?

My main thought on this is that for most items of filtration, the skimmer is the only thing I run in redundancy.  Rarely do I have (or ever see) a tank with two uv sterilizers, or two phosban reactors, or two ozone units.  But would it be helpful to have two or more of those items?

Adam
ps- just this week I decided to take out my second skimmer on my tank.... but I'll be running two uv sterilizers on it
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