http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Fri, 24 Jul 2026 03:25:17 +0000 Mon, 27 Dec 2010 15:39:38 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.03 360 www.utahreefs.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=45629 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/1by1.gif http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45629&PID=391757&title=help-orange-turned-brown#391757 Author: ksmart
Subject: 45629
Posted: December 27 2010 at 3:39pm

This same thing happened to me 2 months ago. All my parameters were good though. My alk and mag were at normal levels along with everything else. I couldnt ever figure out what it was. My orange monti turned completely brown and so did parts of my green birdsnest. To me it looked like some sort of fungis. What I ended up doing was pulling out all the montipora besides what was attached to the rocks and breaking off all the brown parts on the greed birdsnest. Then I dosed my tank with lugals iodide solution. I dont know if it helped or not but the parts of the montipora that were stuck on the rocks that were completey brown are starting to color back up and im seeing a lot of new growth. I have no idea what it was but your montipora looks just like mine did before it turned completely brown. Good luck.]]> Mon, 27 Dec 2010 15:39:38 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45629&PID=391757&title=help-orange-turned-brown#391757 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45629&PID=391750&title=help-orange-turned-brown#391750 Author: sjaynes
Subject: 45629
Posted: December 27 2010 at 2:16pm

Hey everyone thanks for the help and advice.  I am raising the Magnesium and Alkalinity as fast as I can while still keeping it safe on the tank.  I will keep you updated.  Time will tell if it was too late.  Hopefully not....
]]> Mon, 27 Dec 2010 14:16:09 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45629&PID=391750&title=help-orange-turned-brown#391750 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45629&PID=391693&title=help-orange-turned-brown#391693 Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: 45629
Posted: December 26 2010 at 8:44pm

What I said about Mg is true for the moment. The Mg needs to be raised ASAP along with the Alk. Epsom salt is very safe and Baking Soda is the same exact chemical that costs 10x as much at the LFS.
Ryan is correct after a point. Yes, in the long run Epsom Salt should be moderated with water changes, but there is also a Sulfur Cycle that is often overlooked. We can get to that later.

sjaynes, are you there?
]]> Sun, 26 Dec 2010 20:44:10 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45629&PID=391693&title=help-orange-turned-brown#391693 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45629&PID=391669&title=help-orange-turned-brown#391669 Author: kellerexpress
Subject: 45629
Posted: December 26 2010 at 3:45pm

I also vote for low alk, I recently had a small birdnest colony and some monti die in my 12 gallon because I let my alk get way too low.]]> Sun, 26 Dec 2010 15:45:47 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45629&PID=391669&title=help-orange-turned-brown#391669 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45629&PID=391668&title=help-orange-turned-brown#391668 Author: kellerexpress
Subject: 45629
Posted: December 26 2010 at 3:42pm

lol

Edited by kellerexpress - December 26 2010 at 3:43pm]]> Sun, 26 Dec 2010 15:42:43 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45629&PID=391668&title=help-orange-turned-brown#391668 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45629&PID=391666&title=help-orange-turned-brown#391666 Author: Jeffs_little_ocean
Subject: 45629
Posted: December 26 2010 at 3:27pm

I think those corals just miss ryan and the way he used to softly caress the glass every night and read them bedtime stories like "Jack and the slimmer stalk"and "The little coral that could" ]]> Sun, 26 Dec 2010 15:27:30 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45629&PID=391666&title=help-orange-turned-brown#391666 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45629&PID=391645&title=help-orange-turned-brown#391645 Author: Ryan Thompson
Subject: 45629
Posted: December 26 2010 at 1:24pm

That is my old rock and coral. I had great growth and color for years out of those corals. I would say that alk is too low and so is your magnesium. Magnesium needs to be kept above 1300 in my experience or you will see problems.

I would also say that the LED's are the major problem. I am not convinced they can keep reef tanks successfully. You will have certain colors and corals suffer from the lack of spectrum.

You can't run only blue and cool white LED's. I believe you MUST run some warm whites to bring in some red. Kind of like the early days with T5's, people were only running only Blue Plus and Aquablue bulbs. Pinks and other colors always suffered. As soon as KZ came out with the Fiji Purple, it changed the game.

Corals need red and blue light the most. The middle of the spectrum (green, yellow, orange) is not needed as much.]]> Sun, 26 Dec 2010 13:24:18 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45629&PID=391645&title=help-orange-turned-brown#391645 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45629&PID=391644&title=help-orange-turned-brown#391644 Author: Ryan Thompson
Subject: 45629
Posted: December 26 2010 at 1:16pm

Mark Peterson wrote: The rest of the coral look fine so N is not a problem. Even Nitrate as high as 50 ppm is no problem in some tanks. Soda Ash (baked Baking Soda) is not necessary. Baking soda is all that is needed. We can go into the details if needed.And for raising the Mg, Epsom Salt is all that is needed.

Actually Mark, I believe Epsom Salt is only Magnesium Sulfate. Therefore you need Magnesium Chloride as well or your system will not be ionically balanced.

Randy Holmes-Farley wrote a great article about that exact problem with most Magnesium supplements. Avoid Seachem Magnesium for this reason as well. It is not ionically balanced.]]> Sun, 26 Dec 2010 13:16:32 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45629&PID=391644&title=help-orange-turned-brown#391644 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45629&PID=391591&title=help-orange-turned-brown#391591 Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: 45629
Posted: December 25 2010 at 10:48am

The rest of the coral look fine so N is not a problem. Even Nitrate as high as 50 ppm is no problem in some tanks.
Soda Ash (baked Baking Soda) is not necessary. Baking soda is all that is needed. We can go into the details if needed.
And for raising the Mg, Epsom Salt is all that is needed.
]]> Sat, 25 Dec 2010 10:48:47 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45629&PID=391591&title=help-orange-turned-brown#391591 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45629&PID=391558&title=help-orange-turned-brown#391558 Author: Chris Scott
Subject: 45629
Posted: December 24 2010 at 6:41pm

when you say your nitrates are basically zero, what do you mean? 0 or like 10 or 20?

If it is zero, i bet it is the low alk. If you want to address it quickly and not bake the baking soda, you can go get alkalinity from the fish store. I think its called reef builder or something.]]> Fri, 24 Dec 2010 18:41:23 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45629&PID=391558&title=help-orange-turned-brown#391558