WMAS Discussion Forum : Elections http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 25 Jul 2026 10:26:44 +0000 Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:36:56 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.03 360 www.utahreefs.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=29397 <![CDATA[WMAS Discussion Forum]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/1by1.gif http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ <![CDATA[Elections : I looked at it also. I agree with...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29397&PID=266432&title=elections#266432 Author: Dion Richins
Subject: 29397
Posted: November 28 2008 at 1:36pm

I looked at it also. I agree with Larry that it could be a good "all in one" option to the current system. ]]> Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:36:56 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29397&PID=266432&title=elections#266432 <![CDATA[Elections : I looked at ballotbin.com. It...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29397&PID=266424&title=elections#266424 Author: larhalli
Subject: 29397
Posted: November 28 2008 at 1:21pm

I looked at ballotbin.com.  It is an interesting site and their services are free.  I think it may be something that we could use in the future to do an online ballot.  It is private and secure and can be customized to do what we need.]]> Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:21:09 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29397&PID=266424&title=elections#266424 <![CDATA[Elections : bgreenlee wrote:I would suggest...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29397&PID=265781&title=elections#265781 Author: larhalli
Subject: 29397
Posted: November 25 2008 at 2:32pm

Originally posted by bgreenlee bgreenlee wrote:

I would suggest a change to the election process. I would shorten the nomination to election process to a short manageable time frame, like two weeks from one to the other.


I really like some of Billy's ideas.  I think there have been many good ideas and things stated during this election that we as a club need to incorporate or amend into our bylaws that would help or make our club election process run smoother.
I think our club's election process is a joke, compared to other clubs.
We need a firm set of rules that govern our club concerning elections.
One thing that has been talked about is an election committee.  Why not?  My opinion is that this is a necessity to guarantee that the rules are kept and that the election process is also kept from getting out of hand or one sided.  It is a way to take away the suspicion and keep our elections honest.  This committee should be made up from three or more members in good standing that are not running for any position.  No one running for a position should be involved with the counting of the ballots.  We are not a club run by a dictatorship.
Do we need a list of positions that individuals are running for and those that are appointed?  Why not?  Should there be a limit on the number of appointed positions?
I also liked the idea on the online ballot counting, that was mentioned.  Maybe the cost would be an issue.  This is something that needs to be looked at.
It would be really nice to know the results of the elections prior to the next meeting, or in our case the January meeting.
What about term limits (how long an individual can hold a specific position)?  I think change and new ideas are good, and at times is what is needed to take things and possibly our club to the next level.  But because sometimes things and ideas take a while to get running on the right track, maybe the President and VP should be elected for two year terms instead of every year.  Other positions in the council or board could also be depending on what they are or do and could be for either one or two years.
I am not trying to start any fights and just want other's opinions on this.  I would think that if you have an opinion that you would be able to express in to words a good reason as to why you feel the way you do, rather than to say something like, "Because it is a stupid idea" or "I like it the way it is".  State the cause and give reason to why.  Don't show your ignorance, just because you have an opinion.

Maybe the future presidency can appoint a committee to get input, and to draft some proposals to bring before the club at a future meeting that would address our club's election process and the amendments needed amend our club's bylaws concerning this.

]]> Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:32:47 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29397&PID=265781&title=elections#265781 <![CDATA[Elections : Don&#039;t make this more complicated...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29397&PID=263964&title=elections#263964 Author: Dion Richins
Subject: 29397
Posted: November 18 2008 at 10:48pm

Don't make this more complicated than it has to be. The more unnecessary bs that is in place to cause more work than is necessary will make it un fun for the presidency. Rather going out or coming in.
 
Until now the process has worked very well. I'm NOT attacking you. But had you investigated this or been on the council before deciding to run. You would have already known most of the things that have caused you and me so much anguish. Rewriting the by laws or causing more layers of bureaucracy to be formed doesn't seem like a "normal" goal  for a possible incoming president.
 
I'm not trying to cause you heart burn. I'm just voicing my opinion as one running for council that does understand these items as they stand now. Does attend meetings on a regular basis and for several years has put everything into the club that I can.
 
Rock on and Vote for ME!!!!!Big smile
]]> Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:48:14 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29397&PID=263964&title=elections#263964 <![CDATA[Elections : here is just a thought, that I...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29397&PID=263886&title=elections#263886 Author: EagleEyez5
Subject: 29397
Posted: November 18 2008 at 3:45pm

here is just a thought, that I was working on...

The Officers and Directors will appoint an elections committee, as well as a chair-person of that committee, at the September Officers and Director's meeting. The names of the Committee members will be read at the October regular monthly meeting of the Society. The elections committee will present its list of nominees at the regular November meeting, all of whom must have already accepted their nominations. Additional nominations from the floor shall be called for at this meeting, subject to the previous consent of the nominee. The voting will be held at the regular Society meeting in December, and the ballots will be counted at the end of this meeting by the elections committee, totaled with the absent ballots, and the results will be published on the website as well as read at the January meeting. All ballots will be printed and saved for the duration of one year by the election committee Chair-person. All current and new Officers and Directors are to work together through out the month of December, and newly elected Officers and Directors are to be installed at the January regular meeting, and are responsible for the future calendar year.


many other 'thoughts' to come...

Edited by EagleEyez5 - November 18 2008 at 3:46pm]]> Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:45:54 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29397&PID=263886&title=elections#263886 <![CDATA[Elections : bannshy wrote:I think there...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29397&PID=263828&title=elections#263828 Author: Acrid
Subject: 29397
Posted: November 18 2008 at 1:43pm

Originally posted by bannshy bannshy wrote:

I think there should be a new forum made that only allows the canidates to post, and the members to read only.
 
That way people can decide on the facts of what some one says they will do.


I am sorry, but I find this hilarious. It has seemed to me like you are one of the most active "bashers" on this forum regarding the election. Pretty much every single post you have made lately has been negative or uncalled for.

So, yes, I think this is a great idea.
]]> Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:43:14 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29397&PID=263828&title=elections#263828 <![CDATA[Elections : I like the idea of having a forum...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29397&PID=263788&title=elections#263788 Author: Summertop
Subject: 29397
Posted: November 18 2008 at 12:33pm

I like the idea of having a forum specifically for the election process.  But, I see it a little different.  I think the election forum should be open to all.  It should also only be opened/visible during the campaign.

1.  October meeting:  People can start nominating people for election.  A list is maintained of those that have been nominated and whether they have responded to nominations.  I would not publicize whether they accepted or declined...just that they responded.

2.  November meeting:  All nominations are finished.  No new ones accepted.  Candidates are now free to campaign.  Election forum is activated (all old posts removed).

3.  Two weeks before December meeting, members may start voting.  To do this, they print a ballot, fill it out, and mail it to the club.  The mailed ballots remain unopened.

4.  December meeting:  Voting deadline.  Ballots are accepted.  All mailed-in ballots are turned in.  This should be a short meeting.

5.  At the conclusion of the December meeting, ballots are counted.  Anyone is welcome to watch the counting.

6.  In the next day or two, official results are posted on the forum and candidates are notified of winning or "Better luck next year".

7.  By January's meeting, new president has appointed (and been accepted) additional members to the council.

8.  Ballots are kept till March's meeting in the event of "problems".  Non-performance, recounts, withdrawals, etc.

9.  After March, Presidency can appoint any replacements (non-performers, withdrawals).

Notes:  Only 4 council members are elected.  Others may be appointed as needed (in compliance with by-laws).  Typically, I think 4 are appointed.
]]> Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:33:35 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29397&PID=263788&title=elections#263788 <![CDATA[Elections : I think there should be a new...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29397&PID=263758&title=elections#263758 Author: bannshy
Subject: 29397
Posted: November 18 2008 at 11:04am

I think there should be a new forum made that only allows the canidates to post, and the members to read only.
 
That way people can decide on the facts of what some one says they will do.
 
we could even take someone like Summertop to moderate it and ask questions like a debate. Members could submit questions and the moderator could remove any inuendos.
 
Jeremy
]]> Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:04:29 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29397&PID=263758&title=elections#263758 <![CDATA[Elections : I second that! ]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29397&PID=263745&title=elections#263745 Author: sukie
Subject: 29397
Posted: November 18 2008 at 10:05am

I second that!]]> Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:05:22 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29397&PID=263745&title=elections#263745 <![CDATA[Elections : I would suggest a change to the...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29397&PID=263652&title=elections#263652 Author: bgreenlee
Subject: 29397
Posted: November 17 2008 at 10:40pm

I would suggest a change to the election process. I would shorten the nomination to election process to a short manageable time frame, like two weeks from one to the other.]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:40:25 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29397&PID=263652&title=elections#263652