WMAS Discussion Forum : overflow gurgling

WMAS Discussion Forum : overflow gurgling http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 11 Jul 2026 19:16:14 +0000 Tue, 11 May 2004 18:12:30 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.03 360 www.utahreefs.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=2514 <![CDATA[WMAS Discussion Forum]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/1by1.gif http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ <![CDATA[overflow gurgling : Utah SMC dealers. Fluid Power...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2514&PID=25146&title=overflow-gurgling#25146 Author: RJSorensen
Subject: 2514
Posted: May 11 2004 at 6:12pm

Utah SMC dealers.

Fluid Power Tech-Salt Lake City

2050 N. Redwood #94
Salt Lake City, Utah 84116
(801) 363-6789
(801) 363-6799
http://www.fptinc.com

�Intermountain Hydraulics & Automation

4935 N. Hwy 91
Smithfield, Utah 84335
(801) 563-3275
(801) 563-5901

Motion Industries - UT, Logan

390 North 1000 West
Logan, Utah 84321
435/753-7310
435/753-8416
http://www.motionindustries.com

Motion Industries - UT, Ogden

2377 South 1900 West
Ogden, Utah 84401
801/732-1881
801/732-1890
http://www.motionindustries.com

Motion Industries - UT, Orem

555 South 1325 West
Orem, Utah 84058
801/229-1955
801/229-1968
http://www.motionindustries.com

Motion Industries - UT, Salt Lake City

2075 South Pioneer Road
Salt Lake City, Utah 84104
801/972-1036
801/975-9221
http://www.motionindustries.com

Motion Industries - UT, St. George

615 North 3050 East, Suite A6
St. George, Utah 84790
435/673-4575
435/673-4902
http://www.motionindustries.com

Pneumatrek, Inc.

3066 South 300 W
Salt Lake City, Utah 84115
(801) 486-2178
(801) 466-0737]]> Tue, 11 May 2004 18:12:30 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2514&PID=25146&title=overflow-gurgling#25146 <![CDATA[overflow gurgling : Will, this worked for me with...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2514&PID=25145&title=overflow-gurgling#25145 Author: Weimers
Subject: 2514
Posted: May 11 2004 at 6:07pm

Will, this worked for me with downspouts. I'm only mentioning it to you because it was simple to try. Our downspouts used to gurgle pretty loud as the water "fell" down inside them. We closed the ball valve a tiny bit, which allowed more water to collect in the tube. The water then falls a shorter distance, and doesn't gurgle loudly. But maybe that changes the whole physics and chemistry. So try it if you like. One of these days, you should come & see our tank if you're in the area.]]> Tue, 11 May 2004 18:07:54 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2514&PID=25145&title=overflow-gurgling#25145 <![CDATA[overflow gurgling : Enclosed please find a web links...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2514&PID=25144&title=overflow-gurgling#25144 Author: RJSorensen
Subject: 2514
Posted: May 11 2004 at 6:03pm

Enclosed please find a web links to the part and a list of dealers who can
supply you with this device. I have been paying $6.00 ea. In Logan for the
ones I use.

The muffler is on the bottome of the page here.

http://www.smcusa.com/sections/products/valves.asp

There are several places to purchase SMC in Utah.

http://www.smcusa.com/sections/contactus/contact.asp?stateid =52

They are stamped with the part number AN-202 and are 1/4 NPT thread I
believe.

Let me know it they work our for you . . .]]> Tue, 11 May 2004 18:03:29 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2514&PID=25144&title=overflow-gurgling#25144 <![CDATA[overflow gurgling : Cool. I had never seen the muffler....]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2514&PID=25119&title=overflow-gurgling#25119 Author: jfinch
Subject: 2514
Posted: May 11 2004 at 1:01pm

Cool. I had never seen the muffler. Where do you get them?]]> Tue, 11 May 2004 13:01:43 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2514&PID=25119&title=overflow-gurgling#25119 <![CDATA[overflow gurgling : This is my overflow box on my...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2514&PID=25103&title=overflow-gurgling#25103 Author: RJSorensen
Subject: 2514
Posted: May 11 2004 at 10:40am

This is my overflow box on my 55 gallon tank. I am moving about 600
gph through my Durso standpipe I placed in it. In lieu of a drilled hole or
and adjustable drilled hole, or a air valve (which once resided below my
SMC exhaust muffler) I have drilled and taped a hole for these. They are
SMC exhaust muffler(s) from high speed air valves running from 40 to
100 psi. The have a membrane of sorts that limits air (and sound) from
making such a racket in production equipment.

In this application it is being used backwards, however the membrane
allows whatever air is needed to enter, yet no more. There is a increase in
the vacuum in the pipe or draw if you wish, but no top end sound. By
reducing the air taken into the standpipe, there is less air to deal with in
the sump. This makes that side of the system easier to quiet up as well.
My little 600 gph is silent. Dead silent.

Richard Durso is trying these out on his new 180 he is working on, I
provided the test samples for him. But share this tidbit where ever I go . .
. One can think of them as a RO membrane, allowing only that which is
needed to maintain the balance, into the pipe. No more. After some
adjusting of the exit height into my sump, I have even stopped the
bouncing overflow box problem, I think it more an irritation than a
problem, however there are those that find this undesirable in their
systems. In simplest terms, automated air control.

The larger the area above the 'T' that this black muffler connects to, the
more stable the draw flow. Much as a 'boost bottle' on a two stroke
motorcycle of the med 80's, having a resivoir of air above the 'T' makes a
improvement in the over all effect. My picture is a short version that
works for me, but on others, I have found the more air, the better. As
shown they work short too, but one should know that I feel they work
even better with some 'extra' air above if one can do so.

Hope this helps with how and why they seem to work, as with many
things, your milage may vary. In looking at your stuff Mr. Finch one could
say you are accomplished in this regard.

Edited by RJSorensen]]> Tue, 11 May 2004 10:40:44 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2514&PID=25103&title=overflow-gurgling#25103 <![CDATA[overflow gurgling : What am I looking at? ]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2514&PID=25097&title=overflow-gurgling#25097 Author: jfinch
Subject: 2514
Posted: May 11 2004 at 7:02am

What am I looking at?]]> Tue, 11 May 2004 07:02:35 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2514&PID=25097&title=overflow-gurgling#25097 <![CDATA[overflow gurgling : ]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2514&PID=25085&title=overflow-gurgling#25085 Author: RJSorensen
Subject: 2514
Posted: May 10 2004 at 10:12pm

]]> Mon, 10 May 2004 22:12:59 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2514&PID=25085&title=overflow-gurgling#25085 <![CDATA[overflow gurgling : I have found the following to...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2514&PID=25084&title=overflow-gurgling#25084 Author: RJSorensen
Subject: 2514
Posted: May 10 2004 at 10:11pm

I have found the following to be of aid in the reduction of sound and
a general improvement to any known method of allowing air into the end
cap of a Durso standpipe overflow system.

These Sorensen modified Durso's allow enough air to be silent, yet reduce
the amount of air entering the pipe via increased draw, and thus have less
air to deal with in the sump. Making this side of the equation somewhat
easier to deal with as well.]]> Mon, 10 May 2004 22:11:25 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2514&PID=25084&title=overflow-gurgling#25084 <![CDATA[overflow gurgling : Willi, my tank is drilled through...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2514&PID=24895&title=overflow-gurgling#24895 Author: jfinch
Subject: 2514
Posted: May 07 2004 at 7:11am

Willi, my tank is drilled through the back too and I have dursos. I'm pretty sure I posted pictures, just a sec............. Here's pictures of my dursos through the back of the tank: http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1335& KW=durso]]> Fri, 07 May 2004 07:11:24 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2514&PID=24895&title=overflow-gurgling#24895 <![CDATA[overflow gurgling : You could restrict the flow with...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2514&PID=24887&title=overflow-gurgling#24887 Author: reptoreef
Subject: 2514
Posted: May 06 2004 at 10:00pm

You could restrict the flow with including a ball valve into the return line and restricting the flow... SLOWLY... until you've reached the desired flow. However, if this is something you decide on, be sure to use something that will not let something big enough through the return that will get caught and plug. I have ysed systems like this and they worked just fine.

Jason

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