Fragged Scoly
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Topic: Fragged Scoly
Posted By: neurotivity
Subject: Fragged Scoly
Date Posted: February 12 2015 at 10:25pm
I recently picked up a "Reverse Candy Apple" Scoly from WWC that has been fragged and I was curious to see if anybody has an idea as to how long it will take for it to regain it's outer rim where it was cut? |
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Posted By: Bryce
Date Posted: February 12 2015 at 10:48pm
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I have read about a year which is why they are rarely fragged combined with what I understand is a high mortality rate. Just google it, lots of posts of people "experimenting" with this, most do not seem to return to a round shape. ------------- 65g Reef |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: February 13 2015 at 4:34am
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I have had a few severely damaged scolys that might as well have been fragged. They all took about a year to regain a circular shape. ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: Molli
Date Posted: February 13 2015 at 8:05am
| Did they tell you it had been fragged? For the most part you really can't frag a scoly. I am guessing the scoly had been stung or was diseased and someone cut it back. It should grow back under decent tank conditions. I have one that had a small receded portion on it when I bought it and it is growing back. It takes time. |
Posted By: neurotivity
Date Posted: February 13 2015 at 9:24am
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Interesting. I just assumed it was fragged due to the shape and the location of the mouth. I've only ever heard of people fragging scoly's for grafting purposes. I assume it's circular skeletal structure would almost need to be there for it to regain the shape. Correct?
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Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: February 13 2015 at 9:33am
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I've seen quite a few fragged scolys. They aren't too bad to frag. It's Acanthophyllia that are bad. ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: Molli
Date Posted: February 13 2015 at 10:43am
I've read they can't be fragged. Dang the bs out there in this hobby is amazzing. So when they frag a scoly do they have to get a section of the mouth for it to work? |
ReefdUp wrote:Posted By: Molli
Date Posted: February 13 2015 at 11:04am
Well according to reedup above she has seen fragged scolys. I would think that they would end up round again since that seems to be their natural growth pattern but don't know for sure. Its funny i have read such contradicting info but i completely trust reedup's response. I have even read a couple of detailed articles about scolys and how you cannot frag them BUT that if a scoly appears to have died in your tank to leave the skeleton in the tank because the skeleton might produce babies and might continue to do so. Now i wonder if that is alsp BS. |
Posted By: Krazie4Acans
Date Posted: February 13 2015 at 11:33am
They can be fragged but do take a very long time to heal and grow out. One of the newer trends is grafting scoly's Here are some pictures I borrowed from google images of some grafted ones.  There were some at the Reef Fest this year with 4 different colors grafted together like pies. ------------- My ocean. 90g (yup, won it!), 40g, 28g, & 10g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water http://utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=63568&title=krazies-nano-paradise" rel="nofollow - Tank Thread: |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: February 13 2015 at 1:15pm
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All of the grafted ones I've seen long term just turn into separate attched scolys. They never (IME) uptake the zooxanthallae of each other or truly become "one" with each other. That process usually takes about 4 years though. I would buy a fragged scoly. Wouldn't buy a "grafted" one because they aren't true grafts. ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: Molli
Date Posted: February 13 2015 at 1:36pm
| The grated ones are very unattractive to me. We alll have our own tastes! |
Posted By: Bryce
Date Posted: February 13 2015 at 1:57pm
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Here is a good thread on it (http://www.reef2reef.com/forums/unique-corals/133327-experiment-worked.html) not sure if links are allowed so mods remove or let me know and I will if needed. Page three has some updated shots. Personally I would never do it to a perfectly good/healthy scoly but I could see doing it to a damaged one/sick one to try to save it. ------------- 65g Reef |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: February 13 2015 at 4:34pm
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I try not to inundate you all with my blog, but here's a Scoly I rescued to show its recovery over a year: http://www.reefdup.com/2013/02/17/rescuing-dying-corals-scolymia/" rel="nofollow - http://www.reefdup.com/2013/02/17/rescuing-dying-corals-scolymia/ ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: neurotivity
Date Posted: February 13 2015 at 10:22pm
| Neat articles! @ReefdUp, I'm quite impressed, I wouldn't have ever thought that your success in rescuing the scoly would've been possible upon seeing it! |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: February 13 2015 at 10:29pm
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Aw, thanks! You just made my night! ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: neurotivity
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 1:40pm
Upon reading your article, I happened to use your triple dip recovery method on a rainbow blasto frag which was melting/detaching from the skeleton. I'm completely shocked with how much the blastos have recovered already. I can honestly say that they're more inflated now and look significantly healthier than they were once I first got them. Thanks again for sharing your article! I'm beyond ecstatic that the blastos which I initially thought were undoubtedly going to perish, are now on their road to recovery.
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Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 4:30pm
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Yaaaaaaay!!!! Fantastic! I'd love to see photos if you have any. There's a monstrous thread on Reef Central where everyone posts their rescues too. ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |