Another Humble Reminder
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Topic: Another Humble Reminder
Posted By: Adam Blundell
Subject: Another Humble Reminder
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 7:44pm
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I've been in this industry for a very long time. While it is certainly true that I have far greater success with marine fish than nearly every other hobbyist, I will certainly admit that I too have faced disappointing days. Today is another humble reminder that sometimes things can go very bad, very quickly. My good old friend Amyloodinium has found my tank. Not only that but apparently the conditions in my tank are just right for these little buggers. I'm losing all my fish, all very quickly, right in front of me. I've lost many fish that I've now had for over 5 years, and even fish I just took over care of last month. In a few months I'll start that long process of building back up the amazing display I've had, but for right now it looks like the tank is in waiting mode. Adam ps- ignoring the fish.... the rest of the reef system looks amazing right now. Not sure my tank has ever "looked" this good ------------- Come to a meeting, they�re fun! |
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Posted By: Dion Richins
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 8:23pm
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That sucks. We are still trying to get the shop tank back after a crash that nearly wiped out 5years of work. ------------- http://www.customaquariumfurniture.com" rel="nofollow - Bad "censored" Cabinets Best quality in the valley! He is one sexy bald guy, even with out a finger!(MAC) |
Posted By: DMower
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 8:48pm
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I feel your pain. That is what killed every one of my fish earlier this year as well. Either the disease or the treatment. Take your pick. ------------- 150 gal reef with 50 gal sump. Reef Octopus DCS-200 Skimmer. AI Sol Blues. |
Posted By: jdinchak
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 8:55pm
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Oh man, so sorry to hear. ------------- 180G Mixed Reef Tank 170G Dart Frog Tank |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 9:40pm
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Ohhhhh nooooo! Adam, I'm so sorry. My water issue is back, and I'm losing my big Acro colonies in my display. It's amazing how we can work so hard and do so well...then have these humbling moments. Here's to your quick bounce back. Let me know if you need anything. ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 9:40am
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So sorry to hear this. It's a down day when this happens. It could have just been coincidence, but none of my regular fish succumbed to an outbreak of Velvet 4 months ago when I used MarksReef Garlic Treatment frequently during the outbreak. I lost about 20 of the 80 deformed rescued Clownfish, but ~10 of them and all of my regular fish are still with me. It's not the cure nor is it completely effective in all cases, but it doesn't hurt to use this special Garlic Oil. Text or call if you want some. Aloha, Mark  ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member 
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Posted By: tileman
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 4:10pm
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Sorry to hear Adam. Dec seems like a bad time of the year for things going south. Just about a year ago today I had my tank break and lose almost everything. I feel your pain and know the helpless feeling. It's these setbacks that help us grow into better reefers. Do you have any idea how you got this outbreak? ------------- 335G Reef TOTM. http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2015/2/aquarium ReefKeepers TOTM Feb. 2012 http://reefkeeping.com/joomla/index....k-of-the-month & |
Posted By: Will Spencer
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 4:20pm
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Sorry to hear about his Adam. You had some amazing fish. My tank is just coming out of a small crash from about a month ago when I lost ALL of my SPS. Just when things look to be going better than ever is when things seem crash. Why is that? |
Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 4:32pm
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Brad- I'm not sure where from, but it could have been there all along. I think sometimes stress (a couple new fish) or a big change (I recently did a large water change) can just cause the perfect storm of the right conditions. DMower- yep, it's basically the same thing you had happen. I know very well that you can't be in this hobby for long before something like this happens, but still it comes out of nowhere. Adam ------------- Come to a meeting, they�re fun! |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 5:09pm
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Sorry to hear that, Adam. I know how frustrating that can be. I had a power outage at work several years ago wipe out everything. I've had the same velvet ich you have wipe out my home tank as well. You know, it can be a positive thing if you have a fish you don't care for... Just sayin' Corey |
Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 5:28pm
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That sucks. I'm sorry this has happened Adam. -------------  |
Posted By: troyholl
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 5:47pm
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Man sorry to hear that. Its taken me well over a year to get the motivation to begin the replacement of my fish in the 270g after loosing around 35 fish (only 2 survivors) when a cucumber crawled down the drain, into the sump, and then committed suicide by crawling into the sump pump.... and poisoning the entire tank... was devastating... so I know how you feel... ------------- Troy Hollingsworth Riverton, Utah 270 Gallon "Custom" Tank |
Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 9:13pm
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Troy- I had that happen like 10 years ago to me as well!!!! Some people here may remember my awesome orange medusa worm. That thing was AWESOME! Until one day it killed all 50 of my fish in one day. Yep, in one day. Adam ------------- Come to a meeting, they�re fun! |
Posted By: phys
Date Posted: December 03 2014 at 12:04am
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Sorry man! The last few months I've had my share of disasters... a broken tank, AEFW x2, red bugs, broken lighting system, uv-sterilizer broken, over-dose on alk, and a heater malfunction. I lost about 75% of the coral I had last year. Time to rebuild! (I already did lol) |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: December 03 2014 at 4:55am
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Me too. Overdose on Alk is one of my recent disasters. Then there were the catastrophes caused by too much sun. Yep, too much direct sun causes lethal sunburn, even through three panes of glass and a foot of water at this latitude. Then I went too long with high PO4 - I was too dumb to check it. It's difficult for me to admit these mistakes. I can only hope I've learned from them. Sorry for your losses. You're all still awesome fishy friends. Aloha, Mark ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
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Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: February 11 2015 at 5:22pm
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Well it's been two months now. The disease wiped out a lot of fish, and left me with 16 in my tank. Those 16 look fantastic and have for two months now. I'm to that point where you start to say "well, maybe I should look at adding a couple more fish." I'm the disease still exists, actually I'm sure it always does, but making the move to restock is always a debate. Adam ------------- Come to a meeting, they�re fun! |
Posted By: love2skiutah
Date Posted: February 11 2015 at 6:08pm
What fish actually survived? And what did you lose? I'm always interested in hearing what fish make it. There's always a surprise
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Adam Blundell wrote:Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: February 11 2015 at 7:18pm
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Well, some really old fish, which is cool. Still have a couple long surviving tangs, wrasse, my fusi goby who has been around forever, firefish, wrasse. What I lost.... all my anemonefish. Every pair. Angels. Blue Tangs. Jawfish. Sand Gobies. Adam ------------- Come to a meeting, they�re fun! |
Posted By: Pete Moss
Date Posted: February 12 2015 at 12:23am
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Crazy that a dinoflagellate can cause such destruction. Nature is scary. ------------- 125g 90g 2x33g 34g What stores do I recommend? Up North: Bill ( Saltwater Paradise 801-317-8115 ) Down South: Jerry ( Reef On 801-563-0600 ) Member of GCFB |
Posted By: Hogie
Date Posted: February 12 2015 at 12:38am
| So, it does sound like there's any effective treatment. Is there a way to get it out of your tank? |
Posted By: Pete Moss
Date Posted: February 12 2015 at 8:17am
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There are some treatments for velvet, but it's cruel hand of punishment is fierce and swift. ------------- 125g 90g 2x33g 34g What stores do I recommend? Up North: Bill ( Saltwater Paradise 801-317-8115 ) Down South: Jerry ( Reef On 801-563-0600 ) Member of GCFB |
Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: February 12 2015 at 11:15am
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I'm not fully convinced you can treat it, especially in a reef setting. It does act quick, no doubt. Adam ------------- Come to a meeting, they�re fun! |
Posted By: Pete Moss
Date Posted: February 12 2015 at 11:18am
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The recommended treatment is double scotch on the couch while you watch and weep. ------------- 125g 90g 2x33g 34g What stores do I recommend? Up North: Bill ( Saltwater Paradise 801-317-8115 ) Down South: Jerry ( Reef On 801-563-0600 ) Member of GCFB |
Posted By: Marcoss
Date Posted: February 12 2015 at 11:28am
Thats what my treatment is for just about anything; from cleaning the tank to adding new inhabitants. ------------- RedSea Max S400 - 90G Rimless Frag Tanks x2 - 185 Lookdown Bin |
Posted By: love2skiutah
Date Posted: February 12 2015 at 11:30am
| Adam, I know you know M. Callahan very well. You should reach out to him. I know he went through the same thing and was able to keep a handful of fish that survived. I would think he would have reached out to some people in regards to keeping the infected fish. |
Posted By: love2skiutah
Date Posted: February 12 2015 at 11:31am
| Also, do you have any idea what fish introduced into your system may have brought it in? |
Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: February 12 2015 at 12:37pm
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Two answers on that. Yes, I introduced a pair of new fish, which may have set it in motion.... However it's possibly completely unrelated, since the disease could have been there dormant for years. It happens to a lot of tanks. Thankfully not often to my tanks, maybe just by chance, who knows. But when something quickly wipes out your tank you start listing off all sorts of ideas and causes. Callahan has been through that a couple times as well. Not much you can do. Adam ------------- Come to a meeting, they�re fun! |
Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: February 12 2015 at 12:38pm
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I feel confident it has run its course. Maybe I should be thankful I didn't lose more. Adam ------------- Come to a meeting, they�re fun! |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: February 12 2015 at 5:00pm
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I would think it has run it's course, but I would do some preventive things to ensure it doesn't return. Everyone probably thinks I'm completely nuts to believe it but,
Aloha
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Posted By: superman1981
Date Posted: February 13 2015 at 1:55pm
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Adam, I'm sorry to hear you lost so many fish. That just sucks. I had a disaster in my 125 shortly before I sold it off and lost so much (honestly probably a fraction of what you lost), that I've been exclusively sticking to nano cubes for almost 4 years. I keep saying I'm going to get a big tank, but I have serious reservations about making it awesome and then losing everything again... With nano cubes the whole tank can crash and I'll lose less than what my pair of black clowns cost me... ------------- Sure you are, you are Crappy Reef Club Member #1 -Chk4tix 6 gal nanocube 65 gal http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=78639&title=tims-65-gallon-build" rel="nofollow - build thread |
Posted By: Molli
Date Posted: February 13 2015 at 2:02pm
| Superman --- just quarantine this time. You can get a Q tank set up now and by the time a new big tank is ready for fish your fish will be ready for it. |
Posted By: superman1981
Date Posted: February 13 2015 at 2:17pm
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Molli, That's kind of what I'm thinking of doing. I'm planning on setting up something between a 29 and 50 in my home office to get things going. Then when I move to a bigger tank in the family room, I'll keep my office tank as a fish only that I can treat if necessary... I may even put new fish there for a week or two before entering the big tank. ------------- Sure you are, you are Crappy Reef Club Member #1 -Chk4tix 6 gal nanocube 65 gal http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=78639&title=tims-65-gallon-build" rel="nofollow - build thread |
Posted By: Pete Moss
Date Posted: February 13 2015 at 2:20pm
Time and place for everything Mark. I would venture to say that this thread probably wasn't the best place to plug and sell MarksReef Garlic Treatment. Whatever that is. Everyone has disease outbreaks and everyone has fish die. Pretty sure Adam has heard of garlic. ------------- 125g 90g 2x33g 34g What stores do I recommend? Up North: Bill ( Saltwater Paradise 801-317-8115 ) Down South: Jerry ( Reef On 801-563-0600 ) Member of GCFB |
Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: February 13 2015 at 5:08pm
Use it all the time  Adam ------------- Come to a meeting, they�re fun! |
Posted By: Hogie
Date Posted: February 13 2015 at 5:22pm
Wait, you can feed fish garlic?! 
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Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: February 13 2015 at 6:05pm
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Not all garlic is the same. One of the main points in my published treatment method is to find the Garlic product that works best for each tank. MarksReef Garlic Treatment is called that not to sell it, but to make clear that that it's an actual procedure with specific instructions: http://utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=71349" rel="nofollow - http://utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=71349 Not that anyone is interested, but I have found that odorless garlic is not very good. Among garlic oil products, I have found one that seems to work better than any other. Aloha, Mark ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
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