Zoas Haven't Grown
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Topic: Zoas Haven't Grown
Posted By: tfmreefs
Subject: Zoas Haven't Grown
Date Posted: November 08 2012 at 7:46pm
I have had the same zoas since september 2nd and havent seen any new heads. My water levels are all good and everything including them seems happy, but they havent even had one new head yet... Something else I a suposed to do? Thanks- Tanner
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Posted By: Nails12
Date Posted: November 08 2012 at 8:27pm
Eh, i wouldnt worry about it. I have a frag of some pink zoanthids, that i have had for a year and only 1 head has popped up, but all my other zoanthids have done fine. What zoa? is it?
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Posted By: willrileyiv
Date Posted: November 08 2012 at 8:28pm
I have pink zoas as well thar have been 2 heads for 8 months. Some just go slower
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Posted By: hydro phoenix
Date Posted: November 09 2012 at 6:21am
I believe the prettier ones take longer to reproduce, but my standard green and orange zoanthids are not the kind to wait. My eagle eyes take a while though.
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Posted By: tfmreefs
Date Posted: November 09 2012 at 7:07am
I was told these are incredible hulks, but honestly to me they dont look like that..... They are just a darker green and a brownish color.
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Posted By: willrileyiv
Date Posted: November 09 2012 at 7:09am
Pic? Might be mint chocolate chips but again here's where the name game sucks
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Posted By: larseb
Date Posted: November 09 2012 at 3:35pm
I think that the growth kind of depends on the zoa I have a green and orange colony that has been in my tank for like 9 months and i haven't seen hardly any new heads on the other hand i have some yellow ones that i got a frag of 5 heads of and like 4 months later i have atleast 30 heads if not more.
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Posted By: tfmreefs
Date Posted: November 09 2012 at 9:15pm
willrileyiv wrote:
Pic? Might be mint chocolate chips but again here's where the name game sucks |
Heres what they look like, but theres not even that much green in the centers. I have fiteen heads, and no more, and its been that way ( the pic is off the internet)
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Posted By: laynframe
Date Posted: November 11 2012 at 10:24am
try spot feeding them. just read a article about it and i think im going to try it. They mentioned using food pellets, small version of course, and they have seen good growth.
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Posted By: willrileyiv
Date Posted: November 11 2012 at 11:06am
They look just like my.mint chocolate chips. I target feed all my zoas....some eat some don't. I. Use mysis and that fuel stuff mixed in. Some just grow faster then others man
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Posted By: tfmreefs
Date Posted: November 11 2012 at 11:30am
awsome, thanks man
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Posted By: willrileyiv
Date Posted: November 11 2012 at 12:43pm
Np. Text me at 253-861-6548 and ill send you some pics of some of my zoas
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Posted By: tfmreefs
Date Posted: November 12 2012 at 10:19am
Sorry my phone doesnt get pics... its dumb, but you could post or pm it
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Posted By: Dionysus
Date Posted: November 12 2012 at 10:50am
I have a picture of my mint chocolate chips on my tank build, try giving them more light I have like 10 new heads in the last month. Its about 16 inches under my 250 watt halide.
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Posted By: phys
Date Posted: November 13 2012 at 2:02am
I was just going to suggest more light... All mine do better with good lighting...
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Posted By: tfmreefs
Date Posted: November 14 2012 at 6:03pm
Cool, well I raised them up higher so I hope that helps!
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Posted By: saltyjarhead
Date Posted: November 15 2012 at 1:46pm
I was just curious what everyone is saying. I have the same problem. I thought I had to much light because they look like they are trying to move away from it whenever I put them somewhere in the tank. I have been turning my LED's down for awhile , but some are looking good and reproducing and others are not. Seems like they're little skirts are getting skinnier and loosing color. I guess I will just keep messing with it.
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Posted By: phys
Date Posted: November 15 2012 at 2:56pm
What you can do is put them into a darker area. If they need more light, you'll see they actually stretch out to get it. At that point, you can move them into a slightly brighter section and watch for the same thing.
What kind of light and how high do you have it off the water? My zoas always have done well with the bright LEDs I have, its usually the frogspawn and others that fade with too bright of a light. Also, make sure you check your water quality and do water changes often. Mine started to brown out when I wasn't. If you're seeing that, do some water changes and they should come back in a few weeks.
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Posted By: Ryanscott
Date Posted: November 26 2012 at 10:21pm
i would start spot feeding. i used to not spot feed and all my corals grew really slow. now i spot feed everything, even cheapo zoas and everything grows way faster.
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Posted By: MrViper
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 6:30pm
what are you spot feeding?
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Posted By: Ryanscott
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 6:38pm
I use oyster feast, roti feast and phyto feast now but what i used to do is puree brine shrimp and blood worms into a fine liquid.
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Posted By: MrViper
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 6:59pm
thanks for the info
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Posted By: tfmreefs
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 8:05pm
MrViper wrote:
thanks for the info |
+1 I think everyone may have a zoa or two that just didnt want to grow. Thanks all for info and tips!
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Posted By: tfmreefs
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 7:35pm
Hey, so i am back here, and i was reading an article saying that you can slit the base of the zoa, not the head, but the lowest part attached to the rock with a razor blade and theres a good chance that one will sprout. Is this true?.... I also read something about fragging... Like when you frag a zoa into a group with a couple heads, it will grow new ones quickly, but once it hits about 20 or more, it will slow a bit..... Is this true? I would like to try it but i dont want to go cuting up all my corals..... Any imput on this?
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Posted By: rize2
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 8:06pm
tfmreefs wrote:
Hey, so i am back here, and i was reading an article saying that you can slit the base of the zoa, not the head, but the lowest part attached to the rock with a razor blade and theres a good chance that one will sprout. Is this true?....
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I'm sure it has been done but that doesn't mean it will work every time or is a good Idea. I once pulled a frag plug off my rock not realizing that part of my sunny d's were attached to both. One polyp ripped right down the middle, head and all. From that half polyp I now have several.
tfmreefs wrote:
I also read something about fragging... Like when you frag a zoa into a group with a couple heads, it will grow new ones quickly, but once it hits about 20 or more, it will slow a bit..... Is this true? I would like to try it but i dont want to go cuting up all my corals..... Any imput on this?
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From what Ive seen the more zoanthids in the colony the faster it will grow. However with the different speeds zoanthids all grow at, you'd have to compare zoanthids that are the exact same
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Posted By: tfmreefs
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 9:09pm
Yeah, wasnt sure about some of these... Thanks for the imput Rize
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Posted By: wayne99
Date Posted: December 26 2012 at 11:02pm
Dose vitamarin c( bright well ) and make sure you have a grounding probe:)
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Posted By: tfmreefs
Date Posted: December 31 2012 at 8:47pm
Ok, little update. I have been feeding 3 times a week (sometimes 4) blended mysis, blood worms, and brine and i have noticed 2 little new heads out of my bright green and orange zoas, 1 smallish to my mint chocolate chips, 1 to my tiny sky blue and purple ones and 0 to my fire and ice all in 3 weeks exactly. Very gret start 1 question- i leave my lights on 8 ish hours a day, If i leave them on a little longer, will that helpwith growth? And ho long do you guys usually leave your lights on?
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Posted By: Ryanscott
Date Posted: January 01 2013 at 1:56pm
i have mine on for 11 hours . turning them on longer would help. glad to see the feeding worked
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Posted By: willrileyiv
Date Posted: January 05 2013 at 7:32am
My blues are on 5 am til 930 and whites on from 7 or 8 am til . 830pm
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Posted By: rmw2g
Date Posted: February 26 2013 at 10:22pm
For me, most of my Zoas took about 5 months to settle in, yielding 0-few new heads. I only dose with PhytoFeast and Fuel and do about 5 gals of water change on my 65 gal tank/sump EVERY Sat. though most seem to be slow starters, once they get going they just go and go and go.... and go. I started out with about 15 heads among 3 colonies, I now have about 300+ not including the ones I have given away or sold. Mine have produced so many that I have been able to experiment with placement and lighting conditions without the fear of unnecessary loss. So far, my conclusion is med-high flow, and med-high light and as with most corals/inverts/fish stability and consistency will tend to produce desirable results.
I'm only about 2 years into the coral game, so for all of you with more experience than me, feel free to give me some pointers as well.
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