In order for them to be counted as results you must have descriptions of your tank and system as well as what kind of corals are being kept. You must note any changes in how the tank is being maintained, and it is best if you have pictures. Remember this product was designed for SPS corals, and dosing the Accelerant is optional for the SPS to show growth. The Accelerant does however help with coral color as it adds many Bio-Available Elements. 

I will also post information about other products we are working on and a little more of the science behind those.  As for the Process of how these products are made, I am unable to discuss it, Due to the non disclosure agreement.  Try the products, they work as described, and here in this thread I will post as we show some of the testing and methods of testing that prove it.

 

Tank info.

Display: 210 gals

Lighting: 4 radions

Pumps: 1 qty mag 18, 2 qty MP40's

GFO, Carbon, and BioPellet reactors

UV

and a big o glass of WINE!

 

 

The first picture was a frag put into the show tank in Oct as a 1 inch frag, so you can see that we were getting good growth out of it before adding the new products. I have also been buying a ton of new sps corals to put into the show tank, Wild Caught/Mari Cultured and Aquacultured to see their reactions.  

The New Test will begin on Monday!!! With pictures being updated.

We will keep the standard two part on its regular dosing schedule throughout each week so that we know it is a constant.

More pictures added below

At the same exposure levels you would be able to see that the tips of this particular acro are Brighter Blue than I have ever seen "IT" (added after reading through). 

We also received 2 Wild Acros Today, and 4 Maricultured that were added to the tank(after extensive dipping and checking). I will get a couple of pictures of these up so you can see their progress. 

We got in a few Maricultured last week (specifically asking for the supplier to send us colored down or brown ones, yeah prob a first for them) and have had multiple requests and have cut frags of them for customers after having them for as little as 5 days. In other words, they have colored up nicely.

We also got back more info on the products, as well as the labels done. On the labels we will be including the Nano Particulate Range for Each product using a Zeta Size Meter and had some awesome readings with a Nano Particulate size averaging below 200nm.

 

 

Thanks for the clarification, that makes more sense now because I know the zeta sizer can meausre the size of the solution as well as the zeta potential of the solution.

We have found that anywhere we cut frags heals over with a week, and within 2-3 weeks there is a 1/2 branch where the frag was cut.

ATTENTION!!!

(I posted this on another forum and felt I should share my thought here too)

I am writing this response in hopes of trying to save my fellow reefers their hard-earned money and exposing a LFS that is knowingly making extremely false claims about a so-called miracle product and taking advantage of their customers' trust. To tell you a little about myself, my husband and I both teach in science department at two separate universities. My field is Biology and my beloved husband is the chemistry expert. I will attempt to pursuade you that ReefOn's new revolutionary dosing product makes scientific claims that are absolutely false and misleading.

ReefOn's "science" behind this product has been proven wrong on a couple other forums (WMAS and ReefCentral) and his response has been that he is not allowed to reveal additional information because of a "non-disclosure" agreement. Is it a coincidence that he began to explain all the details and complex chemistry behind it without hesitation, but when confronted with the proof of why his claims could never be true he suddenly is unable to explain any further?

One of the most respected chemists in the saltwater aquarium hobby, Randy Holmes-Farley, has said this, "I really don't understand what the product is claiming to be. It might just be nanaoparticle calcium carbonate, and even then I'd be surprised if they are using that term correctly. Might just be fine calcium carbonate. And that is a well known product (such as Aragamight or Kent Liquid Reactor) which really doesn't dissolve nor is it available to corals. I don't believe the passive uptake of any nanoparticles is going to be significant." To those who are unfamiliar with Randy, you can find info on him along with his very impressive credentials. If Randy and other science majors such as myself cannot understand, or disagree with this product, how is a LFS owner to know better?

If you wish to continue reading, I will go on to elaborate on some major points on how this product is making false claims:

ReefOn claims that this product contains no "carrier" molecule and is therefore more efficiently absorbed by corals. I'll start by saying that in liquid form, there is no such thing as a "carrier" molecule. The necessary particles such as calcium, carbonate, and magnesium, naturally separate from the so-called "carrier (sodium, chloride, sulfate)" as soon as it dissolved in water. When ReefOn was challenged by another reefer to approve of testing to determine whether or not the solutions contained the "carriers," as he claimed they didn't, he responded by saying this, "After speaking with the chemist I was informed that there will still be small traces of Sodium, Chloride, and Sulfate in the solutions." ReefOn's original claim, "With no 'carrier' like chloride, sulfate or sodium, the mixtures we have are the calcium, carbonate (alkalinity) and magnesium in a pure h2o/water," was never true afterall. I have taken the liberty of testing these products myself. I have purchased them directly from Jerry and heard him preach about this "explosive growth." Testing the solution was simple. It revealed that the proportion of useful molecules to "carrier" molecules were indeed exactly the same as the proportion of any homemade calcium, magnesium or carbonate solution. This disproves this product's claim indefinitely. Almost every scientific claim about this product can easily be proven as a lie but I will not go any further. If there is any specific claim you would like me to elaborate on, please post your questions!

This product claims "explosive growth." This term is subjective so this paragraph will be purely my educated opinion based on my experience in growing sps corals for 10+ years. The growth pictures ReefOn has been posting have been, at best, average good growth. In my personal tank and tanks of others I know, sps corals grow just as fast as ReefOn's. Assuming he is being honest about the dates of the photos, ReefOn chooses to post growth shots of corals, such as the Red Planet, that are notoriously fast growers in any stable system. It is also known that the larger a coral colony becomes, the faster the growth rate will be. It should also be made known that ReefOn did not grow that Red Planet colony by themselves but purchased it from a reefer that was getting out of the hobby last Fall.

ReefOn claims that he (Jerry) has exclusive rights to this product. Does it really make sense that a major scientific research corporation makes a HUGE groundbreaking discovery that changes the laws of chemistry, and then chooses a small fish store in Utah to pioneer its distribution? In my opinion the answer is no. IF (and that's a big big "IF") half of these claims were possible, I believe that this secret corporation ReefOn has supposedly partnered with, would choose to maximize profits to recoup their research costs and approach a much larger well-known organization to advertise and distribute their product internationally.

To those that claim they are using this product and are observing results, I respect you and apologize if I have offend you. However, ask yourselves in all honesty either if the growth you are seeing is directly related to ReefOn's product, or if you are simply trying really hard to notice growth. If you believe in miracles in the form of secret bottled solutions, then please by all means buy this product. But if you are seeking a product with scientific background that says no lies, then this product is a waste of your hard-earned money. Instead, buy yourself that frag, fish, or equipment you have really been wanting (preferably from a LFS that does not lie to your face.)

I want to apologize to ReefOn for possibly jeopardizing their income from this product but I openly welcome any rebuttal that would disprove anything I have said. In other forums, ReefOn has avoided direct questions and has "beaten around the bush," simply said that he is not allowed to disclose information, and used fancy irrelevant words to further confuse fellow reefers. I expect ReefOn will either continue to do this, or completely ignore this.

Please feel free to comment, ask questions, and post your honest concerns.

 I have also dosed this product into my LPS stank..... I already had an algae problem that stems from daily feedings of my LPS and lack of water changes..... I did notice an increase in algae growth, but the algae was already there and with manual removal, the problem was easily manageable.  In my acro tank, I didn't have any algae problems to start, and still have no algae problems.  The acro tank had the highest dosing of the two tanks and I still only have to wipe the glass twice a week to keep it clean.

These are just my observations of my use of the product, and after a 3 week break, I will continue the use to further solidify my personal opinion on the use of this product.  I can say that I haven't had any of the problems everyone else has apparently had.......

ReefOn claims that this product contains no "carrier" molecule and is therefore more efficiently absorbed by corals. Testing the solution was simple. It revealed that the proportion of useful molecules to "carrier" molecules were indeed exactly the same as the proportion of any homemade calcium, magnesium or carbonate solution. This disproves this product's claim indefinitely. Almost every scientific claim about this product can easily be proven as a lie but I will not go any further. If there is any specific claim you would like me to elaborate on, please post your questions!

As stated before, I am no chemist, nor have I ever claimed to be. I do not want this to be an argument, nor a bashing of anyone. The great thing about this country is that everyone is entitled to their opinion and I will respect ANYONE/EVERYONE'S opinion. As pointed out, I was wrong, and corrected by our advisers, about the 'carriers'.  When these products where explained to me, I tried to 'translate' them and was wrong in a few aspects that have been corrected. 

As for the 'claim' of our products: the claim is that the size of the product is smaller than ANYTHING on the market today. Using a certified lab's Zeta Size Meter, we have shown that the available Calcium measures at 246.6nm.  That is half the size of blue light spectrum. The Magnesium/Alkalinity(Carbon) is also smaller than blue light, and that the Accelerator is smaller than 20nm.  This is what really sets this apart from anything else on the market.  The fact that the elements are smaller, allows the corals to absorb them faster. 

As for the 'statement' that this is just a watered down two part or something else watered down, I then pose the question,

If this is just a two part, why does it not act like a two part?

I have been dosing two part for well over 6 years now and have never seen any two part go into a system, cause a quick spike, and then return to the previous levels within a few hours. Any standard two part will remain in the system until consumed by the corals, or precipitated, usually taking days or weeks as we all know after overdosing once or twice.  The reality of this product is that it goes into the system, is small enough in size for the corals to instantly use, and then is gone from the water column, used up by the corals/coraline algae or other livestock with a calcium and carbonate demand.

I would encourage you to do a little more testing of the product. 'Grab' an electron microscope and take a little closer look at the products. Then put them side by side with a standard two part and look at the difference or the similarity. Also test the size of the elements, and explain how 15ml of a 'watered down two part' can cause such a jump in the levels of a 100gallon tank.

As stated before, if you don't believe it, that is fine, if you don't want to try it, that is fine too, if you want to take your business somewhere else, the Exits are clearly marked. The greatest part of being American is the freedom of having choices. The next best thing is being in a country where there is no limit on the knowledge available, and the reality that our current knowledge is not infinite. According to those past experts, the world was flat and America was not even here. 

Please for the sake of those trying, don't dismiss the possibility of something better, even if you don't understand it.

So they build up this product have a miraculous discovery yet they don't have the capital to register their own domain name?  Registrant: Jerry Ohrn 7563 S Main St Midvale, Utah 84047 United States Registered through: GoDaddy.com, LLC (http://www.godaddy.com) Domain Name: QUANTUMMARINELABS.COM Created on: 22-Feb-12 Expires on: 22-Feb-13 Last Updated on: 22-Feb-12 isn't that you and your store???? Also one time when the sales guy was in there he was very recognizable.. strange .. so what is the true source / timeline of this discovery?

You are exactly correct, we needed a name for the product as well as the name of a business to keep it separate from ReefOn for accounting purposes as well as distribution purposes. I have never claimed that Quantum Marine Labs was anything other than the name on the bottles. It is nice to know that google works.....

Like I said, if you don't want to use it, don't. It does not hurt my feelings, nor do I really care, I know this stuff works, I knew there would be skeptics, and welcome your input.