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Topic: No power
Posted By: Laird
Subject: No power
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 12:35pm
I just talked to a buddy who works for the power company and he said it could be out for a couple days and that he'd guess mine, in Roy, will be out till tomorrow.

So where is the best place to get a generator? My house is already cold and Im super worried about the tank.

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Indefinite hiatus from sw aquariums.

Once I have my glorious return I'll set back up the following.
50 Gallon rimless cube.
180 Gallons mixed reef paradise



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Posted By: lskurys
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 12:48pm
I live in Roy also.  When I left the house at 7:00 am I still had power.  Did the power go out after that? 

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Posted By: Laird
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 1:03pm
Yes. It went out around 11

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Indefinite hiatus from sw aquariums.

Once I have my glorious return I'll set back up the following.
50 Gallon rimless cube.
180 Gallons mixed reef paradise


Posted By: DLindquist
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 1:10pm
I know Cabelas recently had 4000W generators for around $300.00. While it's a bit of a drive for you, it may be worth it if they are still on sale.

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Posted By: lskurys
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 1:12pm

Well it looks like I might need to start making some calls...  Thanks for the update.



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Posted By: Dion Richins
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 1:17pm
Our power went out at 2:30 am. Both mp40's on battery back up stalled, Went back on at 4 and off at 5:30 and I gave in and fired up the generator. Power was out for 7 hours total (farmington) but my shop in bountiful is still out. My tank there is loving the mp10 with battery back up!!

Home Depot has one  on sale for Christmas. I bought mine 4 years ago and this is the first time Ive actually used it for what it was bought for.


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Posted By: lskurys
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 1:23pm
Well my Mother in Law in Clinton has power again.   I live really close to the sub station by Kents.  so I am hoping that my power is back up and running before I get home.  If not I did find a generator to use. 

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Posted By: Laird
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 1:59pm
I have friends in Roy who all still have power so helpfully your ok

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Indefinite hiatus from sw aquariums.

Once I have my glorious return I'll set back up the following.
50 Gallon rimless cube.
180 Gallons mixed reef paradise


Posted By: bur01014
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 2:08pm
if you want something to get you by and aren't in the market for a generator, I went out and bought a car jump starter kit.....they are about 40-50 bucks and hold a charge for quite a while.  They have a typical cigarette lighter outlet on them, so I went out a bought a adapter that splits the cigarette outlet into three normally grounded outlets.  It has powered a small heater and powerhead for me for 8+ hours...that way you still have some circulation for corals/fish and can keep the water from getting too cold too fast....just a thought...
 
Other than that..stir the water here and there and throw a blanket over the tank for insulation, this helps the water temp will drop considerably less as time passes, especially if your tank is open top....I experimented with this and was surprised with how effective it was.
 
Good luck


Posted By: Laird
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 2:37pm
Do you have to charge it somehow first?
Where did you get the adapter?

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Indefinite hiatus from sw aquariums.

Once I have my glorious return I'll set back up the following.
50 Gallon rimless cube.
180 Gallons mixed reef paradise


Posted By: Laird
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 2:45pm
What's the danger zone for temp?

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Indefinite hiatus from sw aquariums.

Once I have my glorious return I'll set back up the following.
50 Gallon rimless cube.
180 Gallons mixed reef paradise


Posted By: bur01014
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 2:45pm
mine came fully charged when purchased....got the jump starter (car section) and adapter (electronics section) at a large Smiths  in Salt Lake....I would have went to walmart or something if I had one close because it probably would have been cheaper...
 
just make sure you plug the jump starter in to charge it back up when your power comes back on so it is ready for the next outage...


Posted By: lskurys
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 3:07pm
I have a 12V dc to 120Ac plug if you need to use it.  I will not be home for until close to 6pm just let me know.  Looks like the power is up at my place. 

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Posted By: Rara
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 4:30pm
Cal Ranch in Farr West has plenty of Honda Generators. The EU2000 was $1000 or $900 with a new Cal card (store credit card maybe?) The EU1000 was like $800 or maybe $700.


Posted By: laynframe
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 5:02pm
Checkers has smaller ones for pretty cheap! how many watts are you looking for?

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Posted By: Rara
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 5:20pm
I using my neighbors Honda EU2000. Which is really overkill for my tank. My apex shows I'm only pulling 5.0 amps with 650W of heaters but no lights.


Posted By: Laird
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 5:23pm
Got a generator going so I'm good. Thanks to a good friend who is lucky enough to still have power.

Damn it's loud tho.   I Feel bad for everyone around me...

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Indefinite hiatus from sw aquariums.

Once I have my glorious return I'll set back up the following.
50 Gallon rimless cube.
180 Gallons mixed reef paradise


Posted By: Electro4112
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 5:26pm
you can rent small generators at homedepot for those looking to get power  to tanks with out paying a large cost on generators.


Posted By: griffith
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 6:32pm
I am still without power and with 5 tanks at home
I have one battery air pump that I move from tank to tank and right now I'm heating up water for each tank on a camping stove

How low can the tank get without problems to corals and fish?

Linn

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Posted By: Rara
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 6:58pm
I was wondering the same.
Live Aquaria says 72-78. I would guess they would survive a little colder than that.


Posted By: jmw
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 7:09pm
I'ld be willing to bet they would do just fine at 65 deg.


Posted By: Laird
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 7:53pm
My frag tank was 64 and my main was 69 before I got the heaters going.   I had to go buy more heaters because with how cold it is inside the house the tank heaters can't keep up.



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Indefinite hiatus from sw aquariums.

Once I have my glorious return I'll set back up the following.
50 Gallon rimless cube.
180 Gallons mixed reef paradise


Posted By: jmw
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 8:25pm
corals and fish are really pertty resilient to adverse conditions..if not I wouldn't be in this hobby, they might not be happy. It's going to get cold tonight and tomorrow. Try blankets....anything to insulate the tank. Oh yea don't forget about yourself!!


Posted By: Aquarium Creations
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 9:16pm
I am in draper and have a generator someone can borrow if need let me know 801.548.5201 u can come get it any time tonight if needed 

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Posted By: phys
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 10:49pm
you could get a DC-AC adapter from one of the car parts places for around 20-30 bucks. if you have 2 cars, rob the battery out of one and hook it up.. it'll be good for a few hours...


Posted By: phys
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 10:50pm
if anyone near salt lake needs to borrow one, i have one. not a batt, just the adaptor..


Posted By: Laird
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 11:08pm
Boogie needs some help, I hope he sees your guys offer.



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Indefinite hiatus from sw aquariums.

Once I have my glorious return I'll set back up the following.
50 Gallon rimless cube.
180 Gallons mixed reef paradise


Posted By: philhender
Date Posted: December 01 2011 at 11:32pm
my power finally came back, tank ran 8 hours on battery air pump... i called on generators and everyone I tried said they were out, even harbor freight.  tank temp dropped to 72* (from 79)... powers been on for an hour and i hit 74, enough relief to go to bed. 2 500w heaters are warming at the rate of 2* per hour... not too drastic.  best part of large water volumes is the rate at which they heat/cool.  I'd have gone nuts if I owned a nano! I like my ~160 gallons.

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Posted By: lil' man
Date Posted: December 02 2011 at 7:34am
I have two generators just sitting here...My house has power and I dont need them. If someone really needs one, Im in north salt lake and would be happy to lend them out!


Posted By: GaryF
Date Posted: December 02 2011 at 9:12am
The cheapest generator I have ever seen is at Harbor Frieght. With that being said, I dont know how long it would last you. They have a 800 watt unit for $130. If you have the money the Honda EU2000 is an excellent unit. It is the one I bought before I got into the Marine world. At 2000 watts, it will run a small space heater and my tank.  

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Posted By: Jake Pehrson
Date Posted: December 02 2011 at 10:06am
I know this is late notice, but I have 3 generators.  If anyone is still without power I would be happy to let them borrow one.

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Posted By: Laird
Date Posted: December 02 2011 at 10:26am
I finally have power. That sure wasnt a fun night....

Everyone I know who needed a generator either has one now or has power back thankfully.

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Indefinite hiatus from sw aquariums.

Once I have my glorious return I'll set back up the following.
50 Gallon rimless cube.
180 Gallons mixed reef paradise


Posted By: ksmart
Date Posted: December 02 2011 at 1:14pm
Originally posted by Laird Laird wrote:

I finally have power. That sure wasnt a fun night....

Everyone I know who needed a generator either has one now or has power back thankfully.


definitely not a fun day/night. I had some battery powered air pumps but I had a hard time keeping the temp up in my tank. Didnt have internet access so I couldnt jump on here but it was awesome to see everyone who was willing to lend their generators. I really like the idea of using a car jump starter with the power converter I think I will pick that up and have just in case for next time. My temp was back up by this morning and well tonight after work I'll see how everything is doing.

Hope everyone's tanks that were without power yesterday are doing good now!

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Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: December 02 2011 at 2:24pm
Just now getting back online. We went 18 hours without power. Thank you generator for keeping the tanks happy.

Adam

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Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: December 02 2011 at 3:15pm
Just got power back...after 32 hours.  Stupid me didn't have the Vortechs & backups hooked up b/c all my stuff is still in a small holding tank from the cross-country move.
 
I ended up resorting to those cheapo battery powered airstones (2 of them).  My tank is in the basement, and this morning I found the tank at ~40 degrees.  In a panic I threw a couple of the regenerable heat packs into the tank...which has it at 50 degrees now.
 
Needless to say...there will be losses.  Ouch  Nothing has gone yet though...just looks terrible.  This sucks.


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Posted By: Rara
Date Posted: December 02 2011 at 3:44pm
Oh no. Sorry to hear about your tank. I'm very thankful my neighbors let me use their generator. I'm going on about 36 hrs without power. Apparently there was heavy damage around me so it might be a little while longer.


Posted By: phys
Date Posted: December 02 2011 at 3:46pm
hey all, how about making a list of those who'd be willing to help others with such things in case of emergencies? not sure how to implement it but it would be an awesome thing to do!


Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: December 02 2011 at 6:27pm
Rara, I'm so sorry to hear that.  You're just a bit north of me, so I know Ogden was hit pretty hard.  Let us know if we can do anything.

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Posted By: Rara
Date Posted: December 02 2011 at 8:23pm
Thanks for the offer to help. I finally got power around 5.


Posted By: Laird
Date Posted: December 03 2011 at 10:04am
Nobody still doesn't have power I hope?

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Indefinite hiatus from sw aquariums.

Once I have my glorious return I'll set back up the following.
50 Gallon rimless cube.
180 Gallons mixed reef paradise


Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: December 03 2011 at 10:24am
Originally posted by Laird Laird wrote:

What's the danger zone for temp?
I'll throw my 2 cents in here Smile
As low as 60 or even a little lower if it is a gradual shift over many hours (like during a power outage). The upper range is more restrictive. Over 85 can cause fairly rapid death in SPS coral. Soft coral can survive short periods of 85-90 degrees.

When the tank stops pushing water, the major concern is suffocation. That's why a battery powered air pump is IMO, the best and also least expensive solution for short term outages.

There are two benefits of lower temperature, which puts the tank in a kind of suspended animation:
1. cooler water slows metabolism and respiration
2. cooler water holds more oxygen for easier respiration
These two effects work together to sustain the tank inhabitants during a relatively long Winter power outage. Hot Summer power outages can be another matter entirely.Wink


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Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: December 03 2011 at 10:58am
Yup, I've had no problems in those temp ranges before (~60-85)...and air stones have saved me many times.
 
But...from personal experience...a tank in the 40's won't survive.  Looks like I may have 100% loses.  This sucks


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Posted By: Will Spencer
Date Posted: December 03 2011 at 11:16am
WOW!  100% losses, that does suck!!! Dead  I'm so sorry to hear that.  I'd be willing to bet there are plenty of people here that would be happy to help out with some frags when you have things ready for them again.  I know I could find some frogspawn and hammer for you.

I think I'm going to find a way to get a generator very soon so that if this happens in my area in the future I'm not fighting for one of the last few at a store or going without and losing everything.

Best of luck to all of you and your tanks.


Posted By: Dion Richins
Date Posted: December 03 2011 at 11:39am
My shop tank hit 60.2 The battery back up for the mp10  failed after 2 days and I had to set up a generator to just run a 34g tank and heater. Took 4 hours to get the temp up and the fish are all still here. All of the snails died and the corals don't look very good but time will tell.

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Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: December 03 2011 at 12:09pm
Will, thanks.  The house just got too cold after 32 hours, so there wasn't really anything I could do (other than a generator...which is now on my purchase list).  Looks like the fish are all gone, and all the SPS are dropping their tissue.  Most LPS are stark white...and the rest are dropping their tissue.  The water is beyond cloudy, and I'm doing water changes as fast as I can make water.  As soon as I can get everything back under control, I'll start making a wish list of frags I need.  Just sad that most of those corals I've had for 5 years.  I think I also lost my mated pair of high-fin gobies with their pistol shrimp that I've had for about 4 years.  :(
 
 
Sorry to hear that Dion.  :( 

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Posted By: Sculpin
Date Posted: December 03 2011 at 12:23pm
Wow that sound freakn' horrible! I'm so sorry. 


Micah


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Posted By: ptronsp
Date Posted: December 03 2011 at 1:01pm
Nikki,
I am so sorry to hear about your tank! That is awful..if there is anything we could do for you please let me know.

Dion sorry to hear about your headache as well with the weather.

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Posted By: Thorn
Date Posted: December 04 2011 at 8:45am
We came out pretty well from the storm.  Our power was out one day, basically, but our internet was down longer.  For all but a couple hours I had my main circulation and heater on my generator.  The temperature got down to 67 in the tank.  About the time I realized i had another heater with the hospital tank to try to bring it up more, the power came on.  I didn't think about a blanket until I got back on here.

Remember the weather people are saying the same storm should happen tonight, Sunday.  Make sure you have everything outside tied down, and things lined up for your tank.

Good luck!


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Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: December 06 2011 at 9:46pm
I'm so sorry to hear of your losses.


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