AIPTASIA
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Topic: AIPTASIA
Posted By: Pam&Jake
Subject: AIPTASIA
Date Posted: November 06 2011 at 3:59pm
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I just bought a 65 gallon tank, the person I purchased it from lost interest in this great hobby, and ALL of the rocks that were with it are covered in Aiptasia. An suggestions for getting rid of it?? I have heard joes juice doesnt work, vinegar and water lowers...?.. Ph, and I have heard 1cc of lemon juice in a insulin needle works, but not sure what it does to everything in the tank. Any help will be appreciated! Jake |
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Posted By: Sitaga
Date Posted: November 06 2011 at 4:23pm
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Aptasia eating filefish if you can find one. I'm trying to get some in stock now, but they have been hard to come by. Good luck! ------------- Tons of livestock including fish, coral, and inverts currently in stock. We also have Reeflo pumps, SeaChem additives, Brine Shrimp Direct foods, and ATI lighting in stock. |
Posted By: Pam&Jake
Date Posted: November 06 2011 at 4:36pm
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Aptasia eating filefish... I'll look into them! Are they fairly in-expensive? I don't have that much extra cash to spend, currently all of my money is wrapped up in my sea horse project.... Jake |
Posted By: fishnfresh
Date Posted: November 06 2011 at 4:40pm
| if you dont have any coral yet I would get a kleins butterfly they work the best to munch it down and then get rid of it before you stock with coral. |
Posted By: Quickness
Date Posted: November 06 2011 at 4:48pm
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Won't a copper band butterfly work for this as well? Aptasia X works well from what I have heard as well.
------------- Molon Labe Si vis pacem, para bellum |
Posted By: uh60chief
Date Posted: November 06 2011 at 4:56pm
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http://www.reefaddicts.com/content.php/270-An-Easy-DIY-Aptasia-Burner - http://www.reefaddicts.com/content.php/270-An-Easy-DIY-Aptasia-Burner I just happen to be reading about this today. I have never used this thing, so I leave you to make your own choice about this. ------------- Jason&Andrea Townsend Bluffdale Utah Tired of looking at my empty 125 :( |
Posted By: Pam&Jake
Date Posted: November 06 2011 at 5:07pm
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I have Elegance, Candy Coral, Red modern, Seabae anemone, 1 hammer coral with 14 heads on it, one frog spawn with 5 heads, one frog spawn with one head, blastos, a few colonies of zoos, a clam covered in zoos, pulsating xenia, a few mushrooms.... um. some red looking stuff, I cant come up with the name ATM.... Quite a list, doest seem like there is that much in there! haha Jake |
Posted By: sabeypets
Date Posted: November 06 2011 at 5:18pm
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I raise the berghia Nudibranch that eat aiptasia. They will eat aiptasia and that's ALL they will eat.
To get aiptasia to spread I stress them out. Injecting them with anything will stress them IMO. If you do try the injecting method you will have better luck injecting them in the morning rather than in evening before the lights go out. Don't try to kill them all at once if there are a lot or you could cause the tank to crash.
Peppermint shrimp are hit and miss some will eat aiptasia some won't, and even then they only eat small ones. IMO peppermint shrimp aren't 100% reef safe.
Aiptasia eating filefish? Never had one.
------------- Shaun American Fork "Would you leave a dead cat in your kitchen till tommorow?" Builderofdreams |
Posted By: Pam&Jake
Date Posted: November 06 2011 at 5:26pm
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There's not too many, that I can see. maybe 4 rocks covered with 10 heads, tops... You raise them? thats cool. Can I borrow one? I want the aiptasia gone. I'll put up something to ensure you get your fish back. lol Jake |
Posted By: Will Spencer
Date Posted: November 06 2011 at 5:26pm
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Berghia Nudibranch's at the #1 way to get rid of Aptasia in my opinion. #2 is Aptasia X from Red Sea. Find it at any LFS. Filefish also got a huge thumbs up from several hobbiests at the Mountain West Reef Fest this year. |
Posted By: Pam&Jake
Date Posted: November 06 2011 at 5:32pm
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Looking at pictures of this invertibrate, I think I'm just going to have to buy one. :p Where can I find one and for about how much is one? The closest salt water place is Aquatic Dreams... I don't like that place, their stuff is off the charts price wise.... Jake |
Posted By: jcoulter17
Date Posted: November 06 2011 at 5:44pm
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What other fish store have you been to? |
Posted By: Pam&Jake
Date Posted: November 06 2011 at 5:46pm
| I have been to almost all of them in the salt lake-ogden area, except for the one on 12th street, but I have heard his SW selection sucks and is even more off the charts than Aquatic dreams is.... |
Posted By: jcoulter17
Date Posted: November 06 2011 at 6:21pm
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I been to all the fish stores around here too and what I can tell is that the prices are about the same. I can tell you that ADs is cleaner than
any other store and AD customer service is way better too. If a dollar
or two more I would still shop at AD. I can tell you about other stores customer service if you like and see if you would still shop there. Last thing you can always buy I membership and save 10% at the LRS |
Posted By: Quickness
Date Posted: November 06 2011 at 6:48pm
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Aquatic Dreams is honestly one of the most better priced stores that I have been to. Their selection of coral is far better priced then any other place that I have gone/go to.
Have you asked about price matching? I also agree with the ^ post. AD was the only store that talked to me for hours when I was first starting out in the hobby to help me along the way. And still to this day will take time to answer any and all questions.
I know everyone is biased about the places they shop and the people they deal with, but stating what I see and continue to see for AD when I am in there. They are always helping someone out. ------------- Molon Labe Si vis pacem, para bellum |
Posted By: Snowsrfr
Date Posted: November 06 2011 at 7:29pm
Biting my tongue...biting my tongue....biting my tongue.... ------------- "A fish tank is not a pet. It's a TV that you gotta feed." - John Caparulo |
Pam&Jake wrote:Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: November 06 2011 at 8:26pm
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If "natural" eradication doesn't work, I recommend trying this: Feed the aiptasia...a lot. I mean, keep feeding it until it's about to burst. Turn off all flow and hit the aiptasia with a tiny squirt of sodium hydroxide. That's it...the end. You just have to be extremely careful with the sodium hydroxide...it's nasty stuff. (The point of feeding the aiptasia is so that it can't jerk back into its hole. I wouldn't try feeding with any other method...b/c if it fails, then you just have a really well-fed aiptasia.) ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: jwoo
Date Posted: November 06 2011 at 9:17pm
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I've always had great luck with Peppermint shrimp and they are usually dirt cheap. My dad had probably 100+ Aptasia in his 225 and he bought like 30 peppermint shrimp wholesale. His aptasia was gone in a week. That said if you can get your hands on some of those berghia's then I'd go that way first. Just be prepared to sale or give it to someone who has aptasia when you are done as they will starve and die once it's all gone. ------------- None at the moment Soon: 72 Gallon Bowfront |
Posted By: mermaidcamille
Date Posted: November 06 2011 at 9:20pm
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I had this problem horribly. My tank was covered (not an exaggeration Mike has pictures somewhere.) I didn't know what they were in the beginning and thought they were cool, until I realized they weren't that cool and by that point I was in trouble. I won't tell you what to do, but I will tell you what I did: I bought Aptasia X and it works fast! They were dead quick. The problem then was all the tiny ones that were left behind. I didn't have the time or energy to dose every itsy bitsy one. Everyone said that berghia nudibranchs were the way to go, so I spent way too much money on a bunch, put them in my tanks (This was two tanks I was dealing with 29g nano and 135g.) I never saw them ever again and I don't think the Aptasia did either. I would never buy them again. Lastly, I invested in about 10 peppermint shrimp and split them between the tanks. Boom. GONE! Should have done that first. Of the hundreds (thousands) of Aptasia that I dealt with two years ago I only have one left (we have an understanding: he doesn't spread, I don't kill him and we have both been happy for over a couple years now  ...living on the edge I guess.)Good luck. |
Posted By: jwoo
Date Posted: November 06 2011 at 9:22pm
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Camille - you are playing with fire! I like your style! ------------- None at the moment Soon: 72 Gallon Bowfront |
Posted By: Lewy
Date Posted: November 06 2011 at 9:26pm
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I saw one in my tank today. I had about 15 min to get ready for work so rather than dealing with the one "the right way" I pulled the small rock out and threw it in a tank with cold fresh water in it. I know extreem but like I said I only had 15 min and I had to leave for work. ------------- 40 gal w/ 20 sump |
Posted By: bstuver
Date Posted: November 06 2011 at 9:32pm
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Berghias are awesome for aptasia. You will want one per about ten gallons they are tiny and if you have any wrasses or fish that like to eat inverts don't get berghias. ------------- Jackie Stuver "wait these aren't the happy Hawaiians oompa doompa godly heaven on your face zoas? I dont want them then. lol!" Ksmart |
Posted By: Chevmaro
Date Posted: November 06 2011 at 11:53pm
| I have had one in my tank for a few months. He hasnt spread. Been meaning to deal with it but havent got around to it. He's in a bad spot. I second aptasia X it is good stuff. |
Posted By: Pam&Jake
Date Posted: November 07 2011 at 9:18am
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I have some Aptasia x that came with this tank we bought, but there is no applicator with it, and when reading the directions, it says inject in into the base....is the applicator a syringe?And don't the things suck back into their rock as soon as you get close? Can someone give me a runthrough on Aptasia X application? LOL |
Posted By: Pam&Jake
Date Posted: November 07 2011 at 9:19am
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And would you recommend I try the peppermint shrimp method first? I wouldn't mind having some peppies.
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Posted By: Pam&Jake
Date Posted: November 07 2011 at 9:22am
| Also, for clarification, we had an established tank, this tank was an upgrade in size for us, not a brand new setup. It came with a couple of corals, but all of our fish and water and the majority of our rock, came from our established tank....then we found the aptasia on the new rocks that came with the tank...grrrr. |
Posted By: Will Spencer
Date Posted: November 07 2011 at 9:28am
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With Aptasia X you do not inject it. Instead, without touching the aptasia, drop with a syringe, a glob of Aptasia X onto the Anemone's mouth. Cover as much of the oral disk as possible. Rather than immediately shrinking down and disappearing as it would if you had touched it with the syringe it should see the glob as food and try to ingest it. Wait 10 to 30 seconds and watch the aptasia more orr less implode. I have also had good luck with Aptasia X ridding my tank of Manjano's and it even seems to work on the dreaded green Proto-palythoa. (OK, dreaded in my tank.) |
Posted By: hydro phoenix
Date Posted: November 07 2011 at 10:34am
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peppermint shrimp ------------- recent absurdity..Unicorns have rabies |
Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: November 07 2011 at 12:49pm
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I have used Aptasia X with good results, but the best eradication has come from the filefish I have. Awesome alien like fish that totally destroyed the aptasia. He eats frozen and prepared foods just fine and doesn't touch my coral.
Aquatic Dreams brought him in for me. |
Posted By: Sculpin
Date Posted: November 07 2011 at 1:13pm
I only have one failed experiences with aptasia. I finaly just closed down the tank, baked the rocks in the sun for a month and put it all back again when I was done and that method worked 100%  .Now I do/did have a majano problem in my parents 225 that I've managed to get on top of using aptasia X. I ended up buying the 16 oz bottel (there were a lot of majano's) and use a huge syringe with a 1.5 foot tube. I turn all the pumps off, spook all my sensitive coral to pull in (my RBTA's and whatever else might get hurt eating the AptasiaX) and then go on the hunt. I dump a heap on each anemone I can get too and then give it 30 minutes before I turn the pumps back on. I probably had 150 visible a few weeks ago and now there are only a few. When they are on vertical edges or overhangs they are very difficult. If you can follow those directions you should kill a ton but they will likely never be gone for good. Micah
------------- 225 Reef (not really mine but i act like it is) 29 Biocube http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45353" rel="nofollow - My Whole House System Build |
Posted By: RandyVB
Date Posted: November 07 2011 at 5:07pm
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I have a Filefish if you want to borrow him. I'm in Salt Lake
------------- Yep, that's my money pit......It keeps me broke and entertained. |
Posted By: Will Spencer
Date Posted: November 07 2011 at 5:49pm
| I forgot one important note in my last post. We can thank Sculpin for adding it in his post. It is always best to shut down the water flow when dosing Aptasia X. The stuff will stay on the Aptasia better and large globs will not float away and get on other corals that could potentially be hurt by it. |
Posted By: ch3tt
Date Posted: November 07 2011 at 6:28pm
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Live rock and reef has a few file fish if you are looking for one. ------------- Red Sea Reefer 625 XXL |
Posted By: GaryF
Date Posted: November 08 2011 at 2:25pm
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My friends 30 gallon was covered in aiptasia at one point. He tried the nudibranches, shrimp, filefish (which he said was like $60 dollars), and various other methods. The one thing that worked was a $10 bottle of Aiptasia solution by precision solutions. This stuff dissolves the critters so fast! He has since given me his tank, and I have seen no sign of them, and its been months!
------------- Gary Finnegan |
Posted By: Chevmaro
Date Posted: November 10 2011 at 10:21am
I never inject mine. Get a syringe and spray it as close to its face as you can. |
Posted By: P.Kapp
Date Posted: November 10 2011 at 11:55am
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Of course everyones experiences are different, but when I had some in my tank I tried peppermint shrimp, lemon juice, aiptasia x, kalk paste, and an aiptasia eating filefish all with no luck. Then I bought another batch of peppermint shrimp (3 shrimp in my 125 gal) and the aiptasia were gone in a week. Hit and miss like everyone said, but you might get lucky like me ------------- Preston Kapp 210 Gal Reef |
Posted By: Pam&Jake
Date Posted: November 10 2011 at 12:48pm
Posted By: Pam&Jake
Date Posted: November 10 2011 at 1:24pm
| We used the aiptasia x on the ones we can see, just did a few each day with the pumps off, it really does work. Wow. Thanks so much for all of your help!! :) |
Posted By: Akira
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 8:29pm
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I used lemon juice and injected them , I only had a few but i havent seen any since. Oh but I added few peppermint shrimp for the future just in case :) |
Posted By: Christianwaisath
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 9:16pm
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You know what I did that was extremely cost effective on my manojos, ( idk on the spelling) I pulled the specific rock and squirted a few drops of boiling water in their mouth, I'm sure it would work on your problem.. It totally got rid of my little terrors, just be careful not to use a ton or you will kill your coraline algae ;) |
Posted By: Akira
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 9:23pm
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Many different ways to take care of this I chose lemon juice as it was inexpensive and offered a cheap chemical free solution , I would have taken more drastic measures had it not worked but just my 2 cents on how i solved it :) |
Posted By: Ann_A
Date Posted: January 16 2012 at 3:29pm
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I've used lemon juice with great results, although I never could get rid of all of them this way. Eventually I just got 2 peppermint shrimp and after about a week I never saw another aiptasia. I recommend peppermint shrimp since they are readily available and fairly inexpensive. Plus they don't usually cause damage to corals and are a nice addition to a reef tank. ------------- http://utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53856&title=annes-65g-rsm-reef" rel="nofollow - RSM 250 Reef |
Posted By: The Sandman
Date Posted: January 18 2012 at 2:22pm
file fish best thing i found but remember they are meat eaters so when theAIPTASIA is gone you need to feed the eating machine------------- Mr Sandman |
Posted By: MattinIdaho
Date Posted: January 18 2012 at 8:11pm
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Aiptasia X will melt them like nobody's business. ------------- Matt Hansen 208 709-6559 180 Mixed Reef 40 Breeder Frag Tank 75 Gallon Sump SRO XP3000 Reef Keeper Lite Eheim Jagger 200 Watt x 2 T5 x 8 Lighting 2 Koralia 6, 1 Korali |
Posted By: twolow4law1
Date Posted: April 04 2012 at 10:25pm
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i had the same problem bought a copperban and he has taking care of the prob and still have in my tank, does not touch any of my corals and they are cheep. ------------- 60 gal rimless , 40 gal rimless 120 gal reef HOOKED ON SALT WATER 801-682-0477 |