overflow gurgling
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Topic: overflow gurgling
Posted By: willi
Subject: overflow gurgling
Date Posted: May 06 2004 at 6:22pm
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My tank is drilled and the water gurgles as it goes in to the return pipe is there any thing I can do to get rid of this anoying noise? Oh and thanks for the help with the back flow problem, the holes in the inlet pipes worked great. thanks willi |
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Posted By: Aquarium Creations
Date Posted: May 06 2004 at 6:27pm
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There are many diffrent things you can do that are pretty cheap you can make your own dersa valve with some simple 90 from home depot if you need some help or more ideas give me a call. Eric 809.4469 ------------- Aquarium Maintenance,Consulting,Custom Built Glass Aquariums Rimless/Euro,24Hr Emergency Service 8015485201 Www.UtahAquariumDoctors.com [email protected] |
Posted By: jfinch
Date Posted: May 06 2004 at 6:27pm
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Do a search here for durso standpipe. They are completely silent. ------------- Jon https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6y_EzjI_ljbIwf2n5uNzTw" rel="nofollow - What I've been doing... |
Posted By: willi
Date Posted: May 06 2004 at 6:41pm
| What where do you think that i can find a durso sand pipe or what does it look like? |
Posted By: jfinch
Date Posted: May 06 2004 at 7:31pm
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Start by reading these threads: http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/search.asp?KW=durso&SM=1&SI=PT&FM=0&OB=1 - http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/search.asp?KW=durso&SM=1& amp;SI=PT&FM=0&OB=1 I think I have posted a few pictures and there are lots of different explainations. You can buy everything you need at Home Depot for under $5. ------------- Jon https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6y_EzjI_ljbIwf2n5uNzTw" rel="nofollow - What I've been doing... |
Posted By: willi
Date Posted: May 06 2004 at 9:25pm
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I read the stuff on the durso but my tank is drilled in the back wall of my tank.How could i apply the same design?
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Posted By: reptoreef
Date Posted: May 06 2004 at 10:00pm
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You could restrict the flow with including a ball valve into the return line and restricting the flow... SLOWLY... until you've reached the desired flow. However, if this is something you decide on, be sure to use something that will not let something big enough through the return that will get caught and plug. I have ysed systems like this and they worked just fine. Jason |
Posted By: jfinch
Date Posted: May 07 2004 at 7:11am
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Willi, my tank is drilled through the back too and I have dursos. I'm pretty sure I posted pictures, just a sec............. Here's pictures of my dursos through the back of the tank: http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1335&KW=durso - http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1335& KW=durso ------------- Jon https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6y_EzjI_ljbIwf2n5uNzTw" rel="nofollow - What I've been doing... |
Posted By: RJSorensen
Date Posted: May 10 2004 at 10:11pm
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I have found the following to be of aid in the reduction of sound and
a general improvement to any known method of allowing air into the end cap of a Durso standpipe overflow system. These Sorensen modified Durso's allow enough air to be silent, yet reduce the amount of air entering the pipe via increased draw, and thus have less air to deal with in the sump. Making this side of the equation somewhat easier to deal with as well. ------------- Rodney & Karole Sorensen Mendon, Utah |
Posted By: RJSorensen
Date Posted: May 10 2004 at 10:12pm
 ------------- Rodney & Karole Sorensen Mendon, Utah |
Posted By: jfinch
Date Posted: May 11 2004 at 7:02am
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What am I looking at? ------------- Jon https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6y_EzjI_ljbIwf2n5uNzTw" rel="nofollow - What I've been doing... |
Posted By: RJSorensen
Date Posted: May 11 2004 at 10:40am
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This is my overflow box on my 55 gallon tank. I am moving about 600
gph through my Durso standpipe I placed in it. In lieu of a drilled hole or and adjustable drilled hole, or a air valve (which once resided below my SMC exhaust muffler) I have drilled and taped a hole for these. They are SMC exhaust muffler(s) from high speed air valves running from 40 to 100 psi. The have a membrane of sorts that limits air (and sound) from making such a racket in production equipment. In this application it is being used backwards, however the membrane allows whatever air is needed to enter, yet no more. There is a increase in the vacuum in the pipe or draw if you wish, but no top end sound. By reducing the air taken into the standpipe, there is less air to deal with in the sump. This makes that side of the system easier to quiet up as well. My little 600 gph is silent. Dead silent. Richard Durso is trying these out on his new 180 he is working on, I provided the test samples for him. But share this tidbit where ever I go . . . One can think of them as a RO membrane, allowing only that which is needed to maintain the balance, into the pipe. No more. After some adjusting of the exit height into my sump, I have even stopped the bouncing overflow box problem, I think it more an irritation than a problem, however there are those that find this undesirable in their systems. In simplest terms, automated air control. The larger the area above the 'T' that this black muffler connects to, the more stable the draw flow. Much as a 'boost bottle' on a two stroke motorcycle of the med 80's, having a resivoir of air above the 'T' makes a improvement in the over all effect. My picture is a short version that works for me, but on others, I have found the more air, the better. As shown they work short too, but one should know that I feel they work even better with some 'extra' air above if one can do so. Hope this helps with how and why they seem to work, as with many things, your milage may vary. In looking at your stuff Mr. Finch one could say you are accomplished in this regard. ------------- Rodney & Karole Sorensen Mendon, Utah |
Posted By: jfinch
Date Posted: May 11 2004 at 1:01pm
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Cool. I had never seen the muffler. Where do you get them? ------------- Jon https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6y_EzjI_ljbIwf2n5uNzTw" rel="nofollow - What I've been doing... |
Posted By: RJSorensen
Date Posted: May 11 2004 at 6:03pm
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Enclosed please find a web links to the part and a list of dealers who can
supply you with this device. I have been paying $6.00 ea. In Logan for the ones I use. The muffler is on the bottome of the page here. http://www.smcusa.com/sections/products/valves.asp There are several places to purchase SMC in Utah. http://www.smcusa.com/sections/contactus/contact.asp?stateid =52 They are stamped with the part number AN-202 and are 1/4 NPT thread I believe. Let me know it they work our for you . . . ------------- Rodney & Karole Sorensen Mendon, Utah |
Posted By: Weimers
Date Posted: May 11 2004 at 6:07pm
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Will, this worked for me with downspouts. I'm only mentioning it to you because it was simple to try. Our downspouts used to gurgle pretty loud as the water "fell" down inside them. We closed the ball valve a tiny bit, which allowed more water to collect in the tube. The water then falls a shorter distance, and doesn't gurgle loudly. But maybe that changes the whole physics and chemistry. So try it if you like. One of these days, you should come & see our tank if you're in the area. ------------- Renee and Damon Weimer Tankless in Hawaii |
Posted By: RJSorensen
Date Posted: May 11 2004 at 6:12pm
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Utah SMC dealers.
Fluid Power Tech-Salt Lake City 2050 N. Redwood #94 Salt Lake City, Utah 84116 (801) 363-6789 (801) 363-6799 http://www.fptinc.com �Intermountain Hydraulics & Automation 4935 N. Hwy 91 Smithfield, Utah 84335 (801) 563-3275 (801) 563-5901 Motion Industries - UT, Logan 390 North 1000 West Logan, Utah 84321 435/753-7310 435/753-8416 http://www.motionindustries.com Motion Industries - UT, Ogden 2377 South 1900 West Ogden, Utah 84401 801/732-1881 801/732-1890 http://www.motionindustries.com Motion Industries - UT, Orem 555 South 1325 West Orem, Utah 84058 801/229-1955 801/229-1968 http://www.motionindustries.com Motion Industries - UT, Salt Lake City 2075 South Pioneer Road Salt Lake City, Utah 84104 801/972-1036 801/975-9221 http://www.motionindustries.com Motion Industries - UT, St. George 615 North 3050 East, Suite A6 St. George, Utah 84790 435/673-4575 435/673-4902 http://www.motionindustries.com Pneumatrek, Inc. 3066 South 300 W Salt Lake City, Utah 84115 (801) 486-2178 (801) 466-0737 ------------- Rodney & Karole Sorensen Mendon, Utah |