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    Posted: November 18 2003 at 9:06pm
It appears to be a fungus of some kind.  It is only on one front fin.  None of the other fish have any signs of it.   This fish has been in my tank about two weeks and this just showed up yesterday.  This is a reef tank with corals so most meds are out.  What can I do for him.  
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A cleaner shrimp and/or cleaner wrasse may help, but be prepared for the lionfish to eat them for lunch. Sometimes, though the lion is also in need of a cleaning and will welcome the cleaners and not eat them, at least not until the need for cleaning is past!

Wasn't the Coral Beauty one of the fish that came with the tank? Perhaps the move and the addition of the new fish was just too much for it.

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Petco usually has tank raised neon gobies that will also help clean the fish, I would strongly recommend getting one of these tank raised neons over the cleaner wrasse since the cleaner usually only eats parasites, while the neons eat fish food.

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I noticed this evening that my Coral Beauty has the same problem.  These two fish came from different sources so I don't believe it is something that came in on them.  I also noticed that my Coral is being picked on by the Flame Angel so is probably feeling the stress from that.  I hope he makes it until I get my tank here at home and can transfer him.

Mark, ljbs's Coral Beauty was not with the original tank It was purchased about 2 weeks after re-setup.  I have a notion that her Flame may also be abusing her CB.

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Some Cleaner Wrasses will also eat fish food, but the point about these cleaning fish is that they eat parasites off the fish, not fungus.

Ljbs has said that the [white cottony] stuff on these Coral Beauties is Fungus. She has kept freshwater fish for years as has her son. I trust that they have correctly identified the malady. This fungus may be of interest to a Cleaner Shrimp more likely than a cleaner fish IMO.

Adam, Jake, anyone?

What did wsinbad1 and ljbs share, that could have spread the fungus

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If it were my fish I would start with some freshwater dips.  I'm not sure if a cleaner shrimp, wrasse, goby, or other will help the problem (you can always try and let us know).
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I agree with Jake.

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The only thing we have shared is about 10 snails and 10 hermits from my tank about 1 week before we purchased these fish.  Again they were purchased from different stores on different days about 5 days apart.  In my tank no other fish seems to have any problems at all and I believe the same to be true in Mom's tank as well.  As I have said before I know my Flame Angel harrasses the Coral Beauty and has done some damage to his fins.

In one week I will be getting my new tank and will then move my Coral Beauty to it.  He will be the only inhabitant for at least a month.  It will be that long before I can afford anymore fish. 

As for freshwater dips...How long do you usually "dip" them? 30 Seconds or 5 minutes or ???

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Freshwater dips are risky.  They rarely work.  However it look like it is getting worse, then I guess you have nothing to lose.  I dip for about 5 mins and that seems good.  Once again it does cause a bunch of extra stress.  Tough call.

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IMO - if you're gonna fresh water dip - do it soon before the fish becomes too weak. I've never had luck with a fresh water dip but I usually wait until the fish is too far gone.

Come to think of it - I havn't had any problems with fish getting sick for a long time. Either they live forever - or they just disappear.

I've got cleaner shrimp that seem to take care of live things. And a coral banded shrimp and hermits that take care of dead things.

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I have never seen good instructions on how to do a fresh water dip? Any one have some to post here? I know the temperature should be the same as the tank but aren't you supposed to use buffer to match the alkalinity as well?
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You can try Maracyn II in the reef but if if it is a true fungus you can try Maroxy. It is also made by Mardell labs but I don't think it is reef safe so you would have to treat seperately. I would just watch and wait unless it gets worse.
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In freshwater match your tanks pH and temperature.  I have never worried about alkalinity.  Dip your fish for about 5 minutes (shorter or longer depending on how the fish is reacting).

Although using a freshwater dip can be stressful to the fish I think your risk is minimal if you watch him closely and remove him if he starts acting strange.  I have rarely had a fish die from a freshwater dip.  Less than 10 in thousands and thousands of fish that I have dipped. 

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The flame will keep harrassing the coral beauty unitl it dies. Only one pigmy angel per tank in most cases. It's possible the reason the CB is getting sick with the fungus is a result of the harrasing more stress equals more sickness. Try to get the Coral Beauty to a quarantine tank if possible that is stress free. It might clear up on its own. (Same thing happened to me with a Purple Tang and yellow tang. The PT recovered in a separate tank and was reintroduced once it was really healthy. Fungus disappeared in 2 weeks or so.)

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