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    Posted: July 30 2012 at 11:15am
Well I just got a 29 gallon nano. going to set it up with little to no flow. I will post pics tonight after I get everything setup.
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What do you plan to put in the tank with little to no flow?  Did you get a Biocube?
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no, it will be a full reef with tons of softies, lps, and sps. and yes its a bio cube. i am running VERY little flow. wish me luck. if anyone down south has anything they would be willing to donate it would be very much appreciated!!! or if anyone gets down this way. i still can't figure out how to post pics from my phone. once i do i will post some before pics. and some along the line.
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here is a post that quickness did not too long ago explaining how to post pictures from your phone

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I have no room to download the app to my phone. hmmmm.
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So why are you going for little to no flow?
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to disprove the whole flow thing. everyone always says more flow better flow. i ran a 75 gallon tank for six years with nothing but a hob skimmer. stocked with tons of corals. tons of fish. way overstocked. i have never had a tank look so good. seems the more i learn the worse i do. that was my first tank and i knew nothing. but i bought it fully stocked that way and he had ran it for years that way.
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I have a Biocube also.  In case you don't know, they make small nano size circulation pumps to give you extra flow.  I have one in my Biocube and have plenty of flow, but not so much that it makes my softies unhappy!
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The point of what I am doing is to have little to no flow.
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Uhhh...umm...ok, well, I wish you luck in that pursuit. Other than your personal experience, may I ask what your theory is behind that? How low of flow are you talking? I encourage experimentation...b/c without it we wouldn't be where we are today in the hobby. I just want to make sure you aren't haphazardly mistreating your animals on a whim. I apologize if it sounds like I questioning your idea...just want to make sure you fully realize what you are going into.

Did you know that the internal temperature of corals is a few degrees higher than that of the surrounding water? Water flow helps keep the internal temperature down so that the corals do not cook (so lower temp may be the way to go if you want to go low flow.) You'll also get areas with uneven temp distribution (areas around the heater may be too hot while areas away may be too cold.) Low flow will also not keep detritus in suspension, so you may need bigger filtration/water changes. Detritus can settle on corals and create dead patches, so you'll need to routinely blow them off. Detritus will also settle in the rocks and create phosphate mines. Low flow may not properly oxygenate the water (which can lead to respiratory issues and pH issues), so you may want to consider a bubbler (which will still provide some water movement.)

Again, I'm not trying to discourage you...just trying to make sure you've fully thought this through before putting your animals at risk.
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Originally posted by rsay4654 rsay4654 wrote:



to disprove the whole flow thing. everyone always says more flow better flow. i ran a 75 gallon tank for six years with nothing but a hob skimmer. stocked with tons of corals. tons of fish. way overstocked. i have never had a tank look so good. seems the more i learn the worse i do. that was my first tank and i knew nothing. but i bought it fully stocked that way and he had ran it for years that way.


I would love to see some pictures of your previous tank. Good luck (as you've requested) with the new set up.
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Well as stated before I had a very succseful tank ran that way for six years or so. And was by far the best tank I have evr had. And by low flow. The only flow will be a hang on back skimmer. Tons of live rock and corals. Fish will however be limited simply cause the size of the tank. But it will be heavily stocked.
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Also in that five or so years I never once did even a small water change. I have seen many tank run this way. All of which are very heavily stocked and some of the best tanks I have seen. I really wish I had some pics of the old tank. Well actually I may in an old phone. But it is now running through the cycle.
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That's great you were able to maintain a system that kept you happy for so long! Wish we could've seen pictures. But WHY do you think it did so well? What was crucial in your past design that will ensure your new design will succeed? Why do you think others have failed with attempts like this while others have suceeded? Have you kept SPS before?

Do you run RO/DI? Do you test for chemicals? How much of a water change do you plan to do...and how often? Do you have a number in your head where you think flow should be (like below 30gph?)
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Originally posted by ReefdUp ReefdUp wrote:

That's great you were able to maintain a system that kept you happy for so long! Wish we could've seen pictures. But WHY do you think it did so well? What was crucial in your past design that will ensure your new design will succeed? Why do you think others have failed with attempts like this while others have suceeded? Have you kept SPS before?

Do you run RO/DI? Do you test for chemicals? How much of a water change do you plan to do...and how often? Do you have a number in your head where you think flow should be (like below 30gph?)
 
I have all the same questions, especially if this is a research project.
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yes i will use only ro water. i truly have no idea why this tank i had did so well. i did nothing to make it that way. and no water changes at all. yes i had some sps in tht tank. i tink as far as total flow it should be somewhere in the area of 75gph. the origanal tank i never tested anything. hell i never even got my first test kit till three years ago. (i have been in the hobby for 15 years). i know i have pictures of that old tank i just need to find the phone they are on.
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damn. found some pics of the old tank but i cant figure out how to post them.
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