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   <title><![CDATA[Hippo Tang =( : I too hope it goes to a good home....]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4">Mark Peterson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 45006<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December&nbsp;02&nbsp;2010 at 2:21pm<br /><br />I too hope it goes to a good home. I would take it if I had a large enough tank.<br><br><img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" />You know the problem with this MB anymore is there isn't enough darma. I hear that Jake loves drama.<img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /><br>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Hippo Tang =( :   Jake Pehrson wrote:Please have...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2655">jwoo</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 45006<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December&nbsp;02&nbsp;2010 at 1:07pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Jake Pehrson" alt="Originally posted by Jake Pehrson" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Jake Pehrson wrote:</strong><br /><br />Please have your non-fish related diet discussions in the off topic forum.<br /><div>Â </div><br /><div>I made a topic specifically for these.</div><br /><div>Â </div><br /><div><a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45090" target="_blank">http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45090</a></div></td></tr></table> <br /><br />On the internet debate scale the current one only reached 1.5 out of a 10. Hardly any insults were thrown! We have made progress!<br /><br />Back on topic - <br /><br />Who ended up with this fish? And how is it doing?<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by jwoo - December&nbsp;02&nbsp;2010 at 1:08pm</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3">Jake Pehrson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 45006<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December&nbsp;02&nbsp;2010 at 12:42pm<br /><br />Please have your non-fish related diet discussions in the off topic forum.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I made a topic specifically for these.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45090" target="_blank">http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45090</A></DIV>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Hippo Tang =( :   smacky wrote:My experience...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2655">jwoo</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 45006<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December&nbsp;02&nbsp;2010 at 12:34pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by smacky" alt="Originally posted by smacky" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>smacky wrote:</strong><br /><br /><p>My experience is a bit different. During the summer I ride around 250 miles a week and during that time I neet to eat nearly 6000 calories a day. I could not do that eating salad and fruit. I do eat healthy food, but the only way to get that much food energy and not spend every second of the day eating, I need fair amounts of fat, amounts I can only get from animals.</p></td></tr></table> <br /><br />Oh don't get me wrong. I ride about 150 miles a week and I do eat like a pig. I just eat more Salads and fruit then I used to. I still love me some animal. If I ate only veggies I think I'd die. I certainly wouldn't be able to go out on a ride longer than 15 miles. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3062">smacky</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 45006<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December&nbsp;02&nbsp;2010 at 12:25pm<br /><br /><P>My experience is a bit different. During the summer I ride around 250 miles a week and during that time I neet to eat nearly 6000 calories a day. I could not do that eating salad and fruit. I do eat healthy food, but the only way to get that much food energy and not spend every second of the day eating, I need fair amounts of fat, amounts I can only get from animals.</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2984">bur01014</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 45006<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December&nbsp;02&nbsp;2010 at 11:33am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by jwoo" alt="Originally posted by jwoo" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>jwoo wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Luckedout" alt="Originally posted by Luckedout" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Luckedout wrote:</strong><br /><br /><BR><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by bur01014" alt="Originally posted by bur01014" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>bur01014 wrote:</strong><br /><br />&nbsp; <BR><DIV>all this about&nbsp;what is easy to digest and what isn't is nonsense.....we don't need to eat of ton of veggies or fruits to obtain neccessary nutrients/vitamins....it is quite simple,&nbsp;nobody wants to eat fruit and veggies... because steak, fat, candy, chocolate just tastes better....eat just a couple servings of the healthy stuff w/ a vitamin supplement a day would be plenty.....</DIV><BR><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><BR></td></tr></table>Sorry, but you're wrong in so many ways. Since it's completely OT from the OP I will leave it at that, but PM me or start a topic in the Off-topic section if you want to learn about proper nutrition.</td></tr></table> <BR><BR><BR>Since we are way off anyway . . . I agree with you. I used to think like Bur01014 did. Then I started to eat more veggies and fruits. I've never been a big junk food person and I've always been fit. This summer I started to road bike again after a two year hiatus and decided that I needed to eat more fruits and veggies. It was hard to start since I never really liked them and I hated salads. After two months though I started to CRAVE salads and fruits. Its to the point now where I eat a salad and fruit almost daily . . . and not because I'm forcing myself to but because it makes me feel better and I crave them. I had not idea what my body was missing till I started to give it what i needed. I used to just take a multivitamin and thought that was good enough . . it most definitely is not.</td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-ansi-: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'" lang=EN><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I think there is validity in this......once you start eating fruits, your craving for "unhealthy" foods will be reduced.&nbsp; This occurs in 2 ways.&nbsp; First, your less hungry.&nbsp; Second, fruits contain ( in many cases) a great deal of sugar, although "natural" sugars,&nbsp;resulting in&nbsp;more stable blood sugar levels=less desire for junk food, and less desire to over-indulge.&nbsp; <?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV><P style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0.75pt 1.5pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-ansi-: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'" lang=EN>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0.75pt 1.5pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-ansi-: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'" lang=EN>Getting on the bike again (exercise) also releases endorphins and will reduce your cravings for unhealthy foods.&nbsp; Glad you are now craving salads and fruits.&nbsp; You have turned a heavy page, however, lifestyle behavioral changes are the hardest to keep....moderation, food choice, and control....very easy to understand, quite difficult to follow on a long-term basis.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2984">bur01014</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 45006<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December&nbsp;02&nbsp;2010 at 11:32am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Luckedout" alt="Originally posted by Luckedout" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Luckedout wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by bur01014" alt="Originally posted by bur01014" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>bur01014 wrote:</strong><br /><br />&nbsp; <DIV>all this about&nbsp;what is easy to digest and what isn't is nonsense.....we don't need to eat of ton of veggies or fruits to obtain neccessary nutrients/vitamins....it is quite simple,&nbsp;nobody wants to eat fruit and veggies... because steak, fat, candy, chocolate just tastes better....eat just a couple servings of the healthy stuff w/ a vitamin supplement a day would be plenty.....</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></td></tr></table><BR><BR>Sorry, but you're wrong in so many ways. Since it's completely OT from the OP I will leave it at that, but PM me or start a topic in the Off-topic section if you want to learn about proper nutrition.<BR></td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>That digestion stuff mentioned is still way off.&nbsp; Wasn't saying there is a magic pill (vitamin) that will solve all your problems.&nbsp; I did say eat a few fruits and veggie servings a day, enjoy some unhealthy food here and there (denying yourself this can cause great problems in the end, overindulgence), and take a daily vitamin for any nutrients you may not be getting.&nbsp; For the <U>typical individual</U>, eating tons of fruits and veggies daily is quite difficult and expensive.&nbsp; Why I suggest my method as being plenty is that in this day and age, many "basic" foods are now enriched with the neccessary vitamins and nutrients we need.&nbsp; (ex. basic piece of bread)</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN>I find no need to learn more at this time, I think my Master's and now Doctorate in the subject warrants enough learning at the moment for myself, but you can pm me back and forth if you like as I think we have overtaken this original thread....<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2655">jwoo</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 45006<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December&nbsp;02&nbsp;2010 at 11:10am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Luckedout" alt="Originally posted by Luckedout" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Luckedout wrote:</strong><br /><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by bur01014" alt="Originally posted by bur01014" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>bur01014 wrote:</strong><br /><br /> <br /><div>all this about what is easy to digest and what isn't is nonsense.....we don't need to eat of ton of veggies or fruits to obtain neccessary nutrients/vitamins....it is quite simple, nobody wants to eat fruit and veggies... because steak, fat, candy, chocolate just tastes better....eat just a couple servings of the healthy stuff w/ a vitamin supplement a day would be plenty.....</div><br /><div> </div><br /></td></tr></table>Sorry, but you're wrong in so many ways. Since it's completely OT from the OP I will leave it at that, but PM me or start a topic in the Off-topic section if you want to learn about proper nutrition.</td></tr></table> <br /><br /><br />Since we are way off anyway . . . I agree with you. I used to think like Bur01014 did. Then I started to eat more veggies and fruits. I've never been a big junk food person and I've always been fit. This summer I started to road bike again after a two year hiatus and decided that I needed to eat more fruits and veggies. It was hard to start since I never really liked them and I hated salads. After two months though I started to CRAVE salads and fruits. Its to the point now where I eat a salad and fruit almost daily . . . and not because I'm forcing myself to but because it makes me feel better and I crave them. I had not idea what my body was missing till I started to give it what i needed. I used to just take a multivitamin and thought that was good enough . . it most definitely is not. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4">Mark Peterson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 45006<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December&nbsp;02&nbsp;2010 at 10:39am<br /><br />The really sad thing about the Standard American Diet (SAD) is that we have all been led astray by the greed and marketing of animal food companies. One of the big lies is how much animal protein they say we need to consume in order to stay healthy.<br><br>The only way to get cholesteral is to eat animals.<br><br>The best way to kick cancer, heart disease and many modern day illnesses is to eat just plant foods.<br><br>The chemicals and modified ingredients that are used in processed foods are actually the cause of some of today's health problems.<br><br>Plant foods have practically everything that humans need to grow and be healthy. They do have lots of proteins, just not animal proteins. The fiber in plants enables good health. Eskimos do not eat a lot of plant foods. Cold environments make animal proteins more appropriate.<br><br>When I started eating the total plant foods that my wife prepared, I actually had less exercise because I also changed jobs at that time. I know it was the change in what I ate that had the effect on my health and energy level. FYI, I do not take any vitamin supplements, but I do have a bite of animal food from time to time. I have found that gives me what I need to feel healthy.<br><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Mark Peterson - December&nbsp;02&nbsp;2010 at 10:41am</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2798">Luckedout</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 45006<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> December&nbsp;01&nbsp;2010 at 5:04pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by bur01014" alt="Originally posted by bur01014" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>bur01014 wrote:</strong><br /><br />&nbsp;<div>all this about&nbsp;what is easy to digest and what isn't is nonsense.....we don't need to eat of ton of veggies or fruits to obtain neccessary nutrients/vitamins....it is quite simple,&nbsp;nobody wants to eat fruit and veggies... because steak, fat, candy, chocolate just tastes better....eat just a couple servings of the healthy stuff w/ a vitamin supplement a day would be plenty.....</div><div>&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table><br><br>Sorry, but you're wrong in so many ways. Since it's completely OT from the OP I will leave it at that, but PM me or start a topic in the Off-topic section if you want to learn about proper nutrition.<br>]]>
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