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   <title><![CDATA[Crocea Clam 1st Grade :   dkle wrote:I bought a 2&amp;#039;&amp;#039;...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1638">BobC63</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21926<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November&nbsp;21&nbsp;2007 at 2:43pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by dkle" alt="Originally posted by dkle" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>dkle wrote:</strong><br /><br />I bought a 2'' blue maxima 2 months ago.&nbsp; I was&nbsp;pretty nervous at first since it was under the 3'' sizes, which were commonly cited as the minimal size that could survive without being fed phyto.&nbsp; It is doing well and growing at the bottom of my tank, despite not being fed.</td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I purchased (2) 1.5" clams back around July... they were on sale for 11.99 each - so I figured "why not take a chance?"</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>4 months later one is approx. 3.5" while the other is 4.5"... they are both doing&nbsp;fine and have<EM> never&nbsp;</EM>been fed phtyo - or anything else for that matter. The smallest food items I feed my Reef are Cyclopeeze and (frozen) Reef Plankton; both of which I&nbsp; believe are too large in particulate size for the clams to ingest...</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>IMO Clams do NOT need to be fed to thrive - even at such a small size.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>If I ever happened to have&nbsp;clams <EM>under</EM> 1" I would probably just keep them in a seperate tank and&nbsp;dose some ammonia, Ca, Mg&nbsp;and hit it with halide lighting before I would even worry about phtyo...</DIV>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Crocea Clam 1st Grade : we&amp;#039;ve had three clams. and...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1943">cl2ysta1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21926<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November&nbsp;21&nbsp;2007 at 6:05am<br /><br /><P>we've had three clams. and we are now 2 for three. The one that didnt make it was a tiny 2" crocea. I am pretty sure it's demise was b/c an sps frag fell into it and punctured it. it quickly died in about 12 hours. our squamosa has grown about 4 inches in less than a year. it came from a home where it lived under powercompacts and quickly adjusted to 400 w metal halides about 5 inches from the surface of the water. and took off!!! I know have a crocea that i got with my tank that is living about&nbsp;6 inches below a 150 w halide. Is this enough lighting for it??? it seems quite happy and the previous owner had it for a while under this same lighting. I recently replaced the bulbs also</P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Crocea Clam 1st Grade : I bought a 2&amp;#039;&amp;#039; blue...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=483">dkle</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21926<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November&nbsp;21&nbsp;2007 at 12:11am<br /><br />I bought a 2'' blue maxima 2 months ago.&nbsp; I was&nbsp;pretty nervous at first since it was under the 3'' sizes, which were commonly cited as the minimal size that could survive without being fed phyto.&nbsp; It is doing well and growing at the bottom of my tank, despite not being fed.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Crocea Clam 1st Grade : You are right about the amonia...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=983">Mike Savage</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21926<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November&nbsp;19&nbsp;2007 at 10:07am<br /><br />You are right about the amonia Bob. I remember that now from James talk.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Mike</DIV>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Crocea Clam 1st Grade : As per Adam&amp;#039;s suggestion...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1984">mermaidcamille</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21926<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November&nbsp;19&nbsp;2007 at 8:44am<br /><br />As per Adam's suggestion the clam has moved onto the big ocean in the sky.  I suppose I will take all your great suggestions and rethink my tank...again, and sometime in the future try again.  May heaven help any clam that comes my way. <img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> ]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Crocea Clam 1st Grade :   Mike Savage wrote:  mermaidcamille...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1638">BobC63</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21926<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November&nbsp;19&nbsp;2007 at 8:09am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Mike Savage" alt="Originally posted by Mike Savage" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Mike Savage wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by mermaidcamille" alt="Originally posted by mermaidcamille" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>mermaidcamille wrote:</strong><br /><br />That is what I was worried about....Why would it turn so quickly after being so happy (or at least pretending to be)?&nbsp; I am so bummed.</td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Maybe the new live rock you introduced to your system had some die off and you got an amonia/nitrite spike?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Mike</DIV></td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Actually, clams <EM>like</EM> ammonia... commercial growers actually "feed" baby clams this way.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Here's a few Qs:</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>1) Was your clam a Crocea spp. ?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>2) How large was it?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>3) Do you have a pic you could post of when it looked "healthy"? That would be helpful.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>4) Do you know your Alk, pH, Ca &amp; Mg levels?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>5) How long has your tank been running? How big is the tank?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>6) Lighting? (Type, wattage, K rating if you know it)</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>7) What fish are in with the clam?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>8) Did you check the shell for the presence of any tiny snails?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>9) Did you notice any white "growth rings" on the outer edges of the shell?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>10) Anything else get sick or die around the same time?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Under the right conditions, trachinids should be incredibly easy to keep... IME it seems that people either have them with basically no problems at all - or they can't seem to keep one alive long-term...</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Usually there is something fundamentally 'not right' when these just keep dying off. Once figured out, it is usually easily remedied...</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Smile" /></DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Crocea Clam 1st Grade :   mermaidcamille wrote:That is...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=983">Mike Savage</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21926<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November&nbsp;18&nbsp;2007 at 10:52pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by mermaidcamille" alt="Originally posted by mermaidcamille" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>mermaidcamille wrote:</strong><br /><br />That is what I was worried about....Why would it turn so quickly after being so happy (or at least pretending to be)?&nbsp; I am so bummed.</td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Maybe the new live rock you introduced to your system had some die off and you got an amonia/nitrite spike?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Mike</DIV>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Crocea Clam 1st Grade : I&amp;#039;d remove the clam now......]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=5">Adam Blundell</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21926<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November&nbsp;18&nbsp;2007 at 10:51pm<br /><br />I'd remove the clam now... before it really falls apart.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>And I too am sure that giant clams do not need phytoplankton.&nbsp; Just lots of light.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Adam</DIV>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Crocea Clam 1st Grade :   Will Spencer wrote:That looks...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1626">Debbles</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21926<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November&nbsp;18&nbsp;2007 at 10:51pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Will Spencer" alt="Originally posted by Will Spencer" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Will Spencer wrote:</strong><br /><br />That looks like every clam I've ever had.<img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Cry" /></td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Me too!<img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Cry" /></DIV><DIV>Deb</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=213">Will Spencer</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21926<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> November&nbsp;18&nbsp;2007 at 10:46pm<br /><br />That looks like every clam I've ever had.<img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Cry" />]]>
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