WMAS Discussion Forum : Protein skimmer bubbles? http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 06 Jul 2026 21:13:55 +0000 Sun, 30 Nov 2003 13:18:13 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.03 360 www.utahreefs.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=1305 <![CDATA[WMAS Discussion Forum]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/1by1.gif http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ <![CDATA[Protein skimmer bubbles? : There is also the consideration...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1305&PID=11384&title=protein-skimmer-bubbles#11384 Author: GonZo
Subject: 1305
Posted: November 30 2003 at 1:18pm

There is also the consideration that we are not injecting pure O2 into our tanks. If there is as much O2 in the atmosphere as there is in the tank, then no additional O2 will be added to the tank. We increase water to air contact to remove CO2 from breathing and add O2 used for breathing.

]]> Sun, 30 Nov 2003 13:18:13 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1305&PID=11384&title=protein-skimmer-bubbles#11384 <![CDATA[Protein skimmer bubbles? : I don&#039;t think you can die...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1305&PID=11359&title=protein-skimmer-bubbles#11359 Author: Suzy
Subject: 1305
Posted: November 30 2003 at 6:08am

I don't think you can die from too much O2. I work in lots of critical
care units where the patient comes up from the ER on 100% 02 and
has sky high blood levels of 02. But high levels of Co2 kill people
every day.......That's why we put them on ventilators! We can actually
help the person to "blow off" the poisonous co2 level. Whenever I put
an extra power head in the bottom of a tank and "blow" the water
from the bottom of the tank to the top, I think I'm putting the tank
on a ventilator! Then I gotta figure out why the patient is not able to
do this for himself......Maybe he needs more lungs (water motion) or
better kidney function (bicarb/buffer/alkalinity) or maybe he has too
much body mass (biodiversity, inc the unseen bacteria) and needs a
gastric bypass!

Rob works in ICU, too. He gets paid to pass gas!!! ]]> Sun, 30 Nov 2003 06:08:53 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1305&PID=11359&title=protein-skimmer-bubbles#11359 <![CDATA[Protein skimmer bubbles? : People can die from too much O2,...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1305&PID=11340&title=protein-skimmer-bubbles#11340 Author: crazy-sps
Subject: 1305
Posted: November 29 2003 at 7:23pm

People can die from too much O2, right?  I'm not in the medical field...  I would assume the same from our tanks.  ]]> Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:23:55 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1305&PID=11340&title=protein-skimmer-bubbles#11340 <![CDATA[Protein skimmer bubbles? : IMO, you want the gases dissolved...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1305&PID=11333&title=protein-skimmer-bubbles#11333 Author: jfinch
Subject: 1305
Posted: November 29 2003 at 5:11pm

IMO, you want the gases dissolved in the water to be in equalibrium with the gases in the atmophere.  The more you can do to increase the water/air surface area the better (closer to equalibrium).  So I agree, a skimmer  (and Rob) is great at passing gas.]]> Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:11:14 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1305&PID=11333&title=protein-skimmer-bubbles#11333 <![CDATA[Protein skimmer bubbles? : Rob says sometimes I exaggerate.......I...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1305&PID=11331&title=protein-skimmer-bubbles#11331 Author: Suzy
Subject: 1305
Posted: November 29 2003 at 5:05pm

Rob says sometimes I exaggerate.......I say Rob doesn't know
everything!

    I know there couldn't be zero co2, but it goes hand in hand with
o2, right? So, if most of our stuff is o2 consumers and co2 releasers,
wouldn't more o2, less co2 be best? Even the stinkin' bacteria in the
sand bed uses o2 and needs to get rid of co2 (except the anaerobic
stuff).......I think.....

I'll ask Rob. He knows everything! Esp GAS! (not just because he has
it , either!!)_]]> Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:05:42 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1305&PID=11331&title=protein-skimmer-bubbles#11331 <![CDATA[Protein skimmer bubbles? : Zero CO2- I don&#039;t think so...There...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1305&PID=11283&title=protein-skimmer-bubbles#11283 Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: 1305
Posted: November 29 2003 at 9:19am

Zero CO2- I don't think so...There must be a balance or life would not be possible!]]> Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:19:29 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1305&PID=11283&title=protein-skimmer-bubbles#11283 <![CDATA[Protein skimmer bubbles? : Suzy, you are right, a skimmer...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1305&PID=11280&title=protein-skimmer-bubbles#11280 Author: crazy-sps
Subject: 1305
Posted: November 29 2003 at 8:59am

Suzy, you are right, a skimmer is going to pull out any proteinaceous waste, but  I do not know about the live though.  I do not think I have ever seem a pod swimming around in my skimmer cup.  Maybe it dies and deteriorates too quick.  I turn the main pump off with the feed button on my Neptune for fifteen minutes when I feed so nothing new gets to the sump.  If there is zero CO2, then wouldn't anything that has to photosynthesize die?  At night time, plant matter takes in O2 and releases CO2, so there would be no way that you could ever have zero CO2. Right???]]> Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:59:32 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1305&PID=11280&title=protein-skimmer-bubbles#11280 <![CDATA[Protein skimmer bubbles? : I turn ours off when there&#039;s...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1305&PID=11265&title=protein-skimmer-bubbles#11265 Author: Suzy
Subject: 1305
Posted: November 29 2003 at 6:27am

   I turn ours off when there's is no algae issues! I like to add live
food, and I think the skimmer removes good stuff,too. Maybe the
green color is phytoplanton?

I really would prefer to run it 24/7 'cause I think it's adding a ton of
O2 when it's on........ ( I think you can never have too much O2, even
better to have zero co2! )]]> Sat, 29 Nov 2003 06:27:17 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1305&PID=11265&title=protein-skimmer-bubbles#11265 <![CDATA[Protein skimmer bubbles? : IMO, even if your skimmer doesn&#039;t...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1305&PID=11259&title=protein-skimmer-bubbles#11259 Author: crazy-sps
Subject: 1305
Posted: November 28 2003 at 9:40pm

IMO, even if your skimmer doesn't pull anything out, leave it on.  Its not going to hurt anything by oxygenating your water. 

]]> Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:40:00 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1305&PID=11259&title=protein-skimmer-bubbles#11259 <![CDATA[Protein skimmer bubbles? : If you&#039;re like me you want...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1305&PID=10800&title=protein-skimmer-bubbles#10800 Author: GonZo
Subject: 1305
Posted: November 20 2003 at 9:13pm

If you're like me you want answers 30 minutes after you post, so here's my attempt. (You'll hear from the experts later, I'm sure)

Skimmers only work if theres stuff to take out. I'v got a 55 G with a skimmer and I love it, but it dosen't froth all the time. (I know I'm gonna get in trouble here, but here it goes) After my heavy feedings it skims great, but the froth dies down as the particulates are removed. If I cleaned it right then, it would remove more particulates, but I only get around to cleaning it once or twice a week.

If you are not sure you need a skimmer then take it off-line for a while, test your water quality and see how your inhabitants fare. More tiny bubbles should increase gunk production, but there has been quite a lot of argument if this much skimming is necessairy or healthy for reef tanks. There are some basics to this hobby, but a a lot of it is personal experimentation and what works for you (and in some cases your budget)

Good luck and let us know what you decide to try.

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