Will it be ok?
Printed From: Utah Reefs
Category: Help
Forum Name: General Help
Forum Description: The place to ask about pest, problems, hitchhikers, etc.
URL: http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=71018
Printed Date: April 27 2024 at 3:01pm
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 12.03 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: Will it be ok?
Posted By: xlr8r
Subject: Will it be ok?
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 10:02pm
|
Tomorrow my power will be turned off for about 8 hrs. I have no battery or generator and will be gone all day at work. No one will be home either. I have a 30 gal breeder. 4 nano fish and some softies and LPS. Will it be ok? ------------- When you hear hoofbeats....Think of a zebra |
Replies:
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 10:09pm
|
I would say Yes, especially if it gets even just a little sunlight for photosynthesis to produce O2 and absorb CO2. Aloha  ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member 
|
Posted By: jwoo
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 10:09pm
|
8 hours? 30 Gallons? Probably not. In the morning run to petco or petsmart and get a battery operated air pump and air stone. Put some batteries in that bad boy put the air stone in the tank and let it pump delicious life giving oxygen into your tank and you should be golden. ------------- None at the moment Soon: 72 Gallon Bowfront |
Posted By: jwoo
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 10:09pm
In a 30 gallon? That's crazy talk. I'd not risk it if it were me. ------------- None at the moment Soon: 72 Gallon Bowfront |
Mark Peterson wrote:Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 10:25pm
|
I would think it should be people bag coral and fish and ship them or bring them to work and drop them off. ------------- Matt Savage "Tattoos and Street Bikes" |
Posted By: xlr8r
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 10:33pm
|
Now I'm nervous. Maybe I'll have my dad come over every hour or so and do a stir. ------------- When you hear hoofbeats....Think of a zebra |
Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 11:04pm
|
Give him a hose and have him blow bubbles haha ------------- Matt Savage "Tattoos and Street Bikes" |
Posted By: xlr8r
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 12:15am
|
Haha!! The image is a funny one. I was thinking more like water scoop and dump. Someone thought that moving power poles in anticipation of road widening was a good idea. Road work that has NO definite future planning. They're thinking MAYBE several years from now if ever.  ------------- When you hear hoofbeats....Think of a zebra |
Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 5:38am
|
I think it will be fine with that small bio load and would not risk natural light and the possibility of heat. I would also put a battery operated air pump and stone in it if it were mine. Mike -------------  |
Posted By: Jeremyw
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 7:17am
|
I would worry but thats just me. Matt Makes a good point about fish and corals..... but how many do you see die? Im like Mike I wouldnt Risk the heat from natural light. If it were me I would run and get a small battery pump for the day. J
|
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 8:37am
|
The advantages of natural sunlight and very misunderstood and it appears that some hobbyists actually have blatant misconceptions about it. There is no heating issue from indirect sunlight especially when the tank sits in a temperature controlled room/house. Indirect sunlight is very powerful, running photosynthesis to consume CO2 and give off O2. I currently have 40 gal and 55 gal tanks in a ~200 gal system that can sit successfully for days without circulation. I've had dozens of other tanks/systems that could do the same. Please keep an open mind. Everyone is welcome to come over and learn why I can make this crazy claim. Aloha, MarksReef 808-345-1049 call/text before you visit to be sure I can meet you. 750 E Lakepoint Dr. #4V Murray ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
|
Posted By: Jeremyw
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 8:43am
|
Mark, His house wont be temperature controlled today just an FYI. Also I would never let my tank go more than an hour or two without circulation the risk is to great. Im glad yours were ok but I know way more people that had issues than people that were ok. J
|
Posted By: jwoo
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 9:07am
^^^ Exactly. You can buy a battery air pump for ten dollars and not have to worry about. Or you can risk it and you MIGHT be ok and you MIGHT not be ok. We spend so much money in this hobby that losing your livestock over a ten dollar investment is just plain silly and crazy talk. Plus do we even know if his tank is next to sunlight?! Get a ten dollar pump. Don't worry about your tank. Peace of mind is priceless. I know way to many people that have had their entire tanks crash over 8-10 hour power outages to risk it. ------------- None at the moment Soon: 72 Gallon Bowfront |
Posted By: xlr8r
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 10:05am
|
My tank sits opposite of a large south facing window. My tank will respond to the light that comes in before the lights turn on mid-morning. On a day like today the room temp should remain constant. ------------- When you hear hoofbeats....Think of a zebra |
Posted By: jwoo
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 10:07am
Hopefully it'll be ok. Personally I'd never risk it but it's your tank. I've been in the hobby way to long and known way to many people on this board who's tanks have crashed over 8 hours to even think about risking it. What can I say I'm a pragmatist and play it safe. ------------- None at the moment Soon: 72 Gallon Bowfront |
Posted By: Jeremyw
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 10:07am
|
You might be ok. For me it always worries me because I have seen die off. But hey its a risk. If you have the availability to go and buy a battery powered air stone/pump go do it. If you have the ability to get someone over there 3 or 4 times to stir the water I would. I have just put to much time and effort in my tanks to wonder as you probably have too. J
|
Posted By: xlr8r
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 10:24am
|
I'm stranded at work. My dad lives close by. For today I may have him go over and give it some flow. Then invest in a battery back up. Thanks guys. ------------- When you hear hoofbeats....Think of a zebra |
Posted By: DanhNgo
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 11:03am
|
It's time to put in whole house backup generator. It's a great investment for 10K and you can watch TV and play Xbox while your neighbor is in the dark. ------------- 200 Gal Reef 25 Gal Nano Reef |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 12:36pm
 On a cloudy day in winter when the outside temp is in the teens, I'd be concerned. The indoor temp could fall below 60 and there would not be enough light. Though it has turned cool again today, it is warm enough and sunny enough to do the job. I'm so confident about this that if anything is lost I'll be happy to help you replace it. Aloha ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
|
Posted By: xlr8r
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 1:10pm
So when will you have that $ 10k ready for me to pick up?  One of those would be nice. ------------- When you hear hoofbeats....Think of a zebra |
Posted By: xlr8r
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 1:12pm
|
Thank you Mark. Your generosity is kind. I'll keep you posted. ------------- When you hear hoofbeats....Think of a zebra |
Posted By: Dion Richins
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 6:06pm
|
10k????? I only paid 7K for the peace of mind!!! ;) ------------- http://www.customaquariumfurniture.com" rel="nofollow - Bad "censored" Cabinets Best quality in the valley! He is one sexy bald guy, even with out a finger!(MAC) |
Posted By: xlr8r
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 6:50pm
Ok. I'll come get 7k from you! : ) I remembered I have a small power inverter I can hook to a spare car battery and run a small power head I have. As it turns out the power company changed their plans due to weather. So it's been delayed. ------------- When you hear hoofbeats....Think of a zebra |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: April 25 2014 at 7:12am
|
I have looked at this and read of the experiences of hobbyists here since 2002. I believe there would be good reasons to run an air stone bubbler rather than a powerhead. 1. A bubbler moves the water just enough, plus it has the advantage of efficient aeration delivering oxygenated water to the coral and fish and keeping pH from dropping. I might even buy several of these $14 battery powered, automatic switching air pumps that can run up to 48 hours on 2 "D" batteries: http://www.thatpetplace.com/silent-air-b11-aquarium-air-pump-battery-operated" rel="nofollow - http://www.thatpetplace.com/silent-air-b11-aquarium-air-pump-battery-operated 2. My next choice would be to use my DC->AC inverter, but there are problems when running some powerheads on the Square Wave output from an inverter. Some won't even work on that output. I would either have to find the right powerhead or get an inverter that produces normal Sine Wave output.  3. I don't have much money for things like this so my last choice would be to get a portable generator like this one for $469: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Champion-Power-Equipment-3-500-4-000-Watt-Remote-Electric-Start-Gasoline-Powered-Portable-Generator-46565/203589538?N=5yc1vZbx9nZ1z0z74f" rel="nofollow - http://www.homedepot.com/p/Champion-Power-Equipment-3-500-4-000-Watt-Remote-Electric-Start-Gasoline-Powered-Portable-Generator-46565/203589538?N=5yc1vZbx9nZ1z0z74f Hope this helps, Aloha ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
|
Posted By: xlr8r
Date Posted: April 25 2014 at 10:38am
I see your point on using a power inverter. I have a friend who gave me a battery powered air pump. But I like the one you linked to. So far the power company hasn't done any work so I may have some time this weekend to come up with a good plan. I can't afford a generator. Although that would be nice. I'm probably one of the poorest ($) reefers out there.  ------------- When you hear hoofbeats....Think of a zebra |
Posted By: jwoo
Date Posted: April 25 2014 at 11:09am
|
I agree with Mark. Get the bubbler it's going to be better and cheaper for short term power outages imo. ------------- None at the moment Soon: 72 Gallon Bowfront |