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    Posted: April 23 2014 at 10:02pm
Tomorrow my power will be turned off for about 8 hrs. I have no battery or generator and will be gone all day at work. No one will be home either. I have a 30 gal breeder. 4 nano fish and some softies and LPS. Will it be ok?
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I would say Yes, especially if it gets even just a little sunlight for photosynthesis to produce O2 and absorb CO2.
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8 hours? 30 Gallons? Probably not. In the morning run to petco or petsmart and get a battery operated air pump and air stone. Put some batteries in that bad boy put the air stone in the tank and let it pump delicious life giving oxygen into your tank and you should be golden.
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Originally posted by Mark Peterson Mark Peterson wrote:

I would say Yes, especially if it gets even just a little sunlight for photosynthesis to produce O2 and absorb CO2.
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In a 30 gallon? That's crazy talk. I'd not risk it if it were me.
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I would think it should be people bag coral and fish and ship them or bring them to work and drop them off.
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Now I'm nervous. Maybe I'll have my dad come over every hour or so and do a stir.
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Give him a hose and have him blow bubbles haha
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Haha!! The image is a funny one. I was thinking more like water scoop and dump.
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I think it will be fine with that small bio load and would not risk natural light and the possibility of heat. I would also put a battery operated air pump and stone in it if it were mine.

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I would worry but thats just me. Matt Makes a good point about fish and corals..... but how many do you see die?

Im like Mike I wouldnt Risk the heat from natural light. 

If it were me I would run and get a small battery pump for the day. 

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The advantages of natural sunlight and very misunderstood and it appears that some hobbyists actually have blatant misconceptions about it. There is no heating issue from indirect sunlight especially when the tank sits in a temperature controlled room/house. Indirect sunlight is very powerful, running photosynthesis to consume CO2 and give off O2. I currently have 40 gal and 55 gal tanks in a ~200 gal system that can sit successfully for days without circulation. I've had dozens of other tanks/systems that could do the same. Please keep an open mind. Everyone is welcome to come over and learn why I can make this crazy claim.

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Mark, 

His house wont be temperature controlled today just an FYI. Also I would never let my tank go more than an hour or two without circulation the risk is to great. Im glad yours were ok but I know way more people that had issues than people that were ok. 

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Originally posted by Jeremyw Jeremyw wrote:

Mark, 

His house wont be temperature controlled today just an FYI. Also I would never let my tank go more than an hour or two without circulation the risk is to great. Im glad yours were ok but I know way more people that had issues than people that were ok. 

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Exactly. You can buy a battery air pump for ten dollars and not have to worry about. Or you can risk it and you MIGHT be ok and you MIGHT not be ok. We spend so much money in this hobby that losing your livestock over a ten dollar investment is just plain silly and crazy talk. Plus do we even know if his tank is next to sunlight?! Get a ten dollar pump. Don't worry about your tank. Peace of mind is priceless. I know way to many people that have had their entire tanks crash over 8-10 hour power outages to risk it.
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My tank sits opposite of a large south facing window. My tank will respond to the light that comes in before the lights turn on mid-morning. On a day like today the room temp should remain constant.
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Originally posted by xlr8r xlr8r wrote:

My tank sits opposite of a large south facing window. My tank will respond to the light that comes in before the lights turn on mid-morning. On a day like today the room temp should remain constant.


Hopefully it'll be ok. Personally I'd never risk it but it's your tank. I've been in the hobby way to long and known way to many people on this board who's tanks have crashed over 8 hours to even think about risking it. What can I say I'm a pragmatist and play it safe.
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You might be ok. For me it always worries me because I have seen die off. But hey its a risk. If you have the availability to go and buy a battery powered air stone/pump go do it. If you have the ability to get someone over there 3 or 4 times to stir the water I would. 

I have just put to much time and effort in my tanks to wonder as you probably have too. 

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I'm stranded at work. My dad lives close by. For today I may have him go over and give it some flow. Then invest in a battery back up. Thanks guys.
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It's time to put in whole house backup generator.  It's a great investment for 10K and you can watch TV and play Xbox while your neighbor is in the dark.



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Originally posted by xlr8r xlr8r wrote:

My tank sits opposite of a large south facing window. My tank will respond to the light that comes in before the lights turn on mid-morning. On a day like today the room temp should remain constant.
Exactly. Approve
On a cloudy day in winter when the outside temp is in the teens, I'd be concerned. The indoor temp could fall below 60 and there would not be enough light. Though it has turned cool again today, it is warm enough and sunny enough to do the job. I'm so confident about this that if anything is lost I'll be happy to help you replace it.

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Originally posted by DanhNgo DanhNgo wrote:


It's time to put in whole house backup generator.  It's a great investment for 10K and you can watch TV and play Xbox while your neighbor is in the dark.




So when will you have that $ 10k ready for me to pick up?
One of those would be nice.

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