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    Posted: March 05 2012 at 2:53pm
Ok let's just say I am highly frustrated with my tank move. I haven't had this many issues since my first tank that I used the full amount of sand without washing it first! So I am wondering what everyone's opinions are on water changes with a new setup. If you have read a few of my other posts I lost a lot of my coral with this move. I did water changes of about ten gallons every three days or so because I had so much dying. It seems to have stabilized as far as things dying but my water only stayed clear for a day and now it is cloudy again. I am guessing it is a bacterial bloom so do I just wait it out, use a uv or do water changes? If I use a uv I am worried I may kill all the good stuff that needs to take hold in the tank.

The tank is an all in one 20"x20"x20" cube so right about 34 gallons. I am running a skimmer as well and have good flow as nothing settles on the substrate.
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Are you running in bio-biltration? Carbon or rowaphos/phosban? I'd probably run at least carbon for a few days and not another water change. Just my opinion though.
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Yes running carbon and gfo in bags
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Don't run UV - let the bloom die off slowly, naturally instead of all at once
 
I would not do anymore water changes unless you are testing postive for ammonia
 
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That's what I thought on the uv.
I will check ammonia when I get home.
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I'm still torn on water changes. For some of my tanks I do them all the time. Some tanks I don't do water changes in years. Paul's lecture last week provided lots of good sound advise on doing water changes. He had me thinking maybe I should do more. Then again I've seen some amazing tanks without water changes.

My advise... clean the sand... don't add any food... keep the water as clean as you can.

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The sand is brand new I only seeded it with a cup of my established tank sand. How long should I not feed for?
I did the initial water changes because I had so much die off that if I didn't I think I would have lost my whole tank.
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Are the corals you are losing mostly SPS or others?
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I lost all my SPS which doesn't surprise me, but I also lost both my torches and a head of hammer. My acans are happy and inflated which is odd seems normally they are more finicky.
I thought I had an ammonia kit but it looks like I need to go get one.
Nitrate is 5
Nitrite is 0
Phos is 0
Cal 480
Alk 11
Mag 1280
Salinity 1.026

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It's more cloudy in person
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As im still on my first tank. Heres what I did ......cleaned all new sand as best as I could ...took hours , after seeing lots of sand clouds on build thread i slow filled via over flow and siphon . took a long time but i was clear in like 20 mins ( only turned on power heads 1 at a time both aimed up). And yes I know how experienced u are just a trick I tried and it worked wonders for cloudyness .....the rest im curious to see other posts.
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The cloudiness was caused by what I am guessing was a bacterial bloom or from corals dying. It wasn't due to the sand but thanks:)
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Was your tank new or used when you got it? This might be a long shot but is there a chance that it was cleaned with something that is toxic to corals before filling it up? Sorry about all the loss, must be very frustrating. When i saw them before the tank move everything looked super healthy. That rainbow welso is awesome btw

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I don't think so. Chad built the tank and I rinsed it before filling it.
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Ok worth a shot. To answer your question I would hold off on water changes for a bit.
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Things are looking better. Luckily my rainbow welso is doing well or i may have thrown something:-)
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Also when can I start feeding? My wrasse has taken to taking out my snails and hermits because he's not being fed:(
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