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Shane H 
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 Posted: October 09 2009 at 5:34pm |
Basically trying to point out the fallacies in human logic.
Which fallacy are you pointing out? Argumentum ad populum?
I enjoyed studying logical fallacies. Although I have to think hard to recognize them anymore.
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Posted: October 09 2009 at 5:51pm |
Yes, to begin with that could be used to dispute simply having writing on the stand...most people like writing on the stand, therefore writing on the stand makes the best stand.
But, even my assertion that...people like writing on the aquarium stand, therefore they will like writing on any aquarium... is also fallacious. Denying the Antecedent (as far as I can tell)
But, that said, what argument could one make that the two situations are not the same if one claims "I would love to display to everyone where and how I won this great tank" on one hand, but would not in the other instance with this tank. The argument is not that they do not mind it, but would even prefer it as some sort of statement. So it would seem to follow that people of that school of thought would want etched branding on this one and it should bring in more tickets.
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Posted: October 09 2009 at 6:00pm |
I think the tank is so unique that any etching would take away form its unique beauty.
Besides then you cant see in the tank you J/A
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Posted: October 09 2009 at 6:04pm |
I agree...and that was my point on the stand...
But, you could put the etching above the waterline...J/A...you crack me up.
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Posted: October 09 2009 at 7:30pm |
 Shane H wrote:
Basically trying to point out the fallacies in human logic.
Which fallacy are you pointing out? Argumentum ad populum?
I enjoyed studying logical fallacies. Although I have to think hard to recognize them anymore. |
Holy crap!! Here is where you lose the attention of all the redneck, backwoods boys like me!! I thought he was talking about something else 
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Posted: October 09 2009 at 7:32pm |
Shane and Fu-
Not to burst your bubbles but keep in mind that most people who buy tanks that light up like this are buying tanks that DO have patterns, letters, logos, and things like that engraved on them!!!!
Most of them are NOT buying light up tanks that are just etched on the top.
Adam
ps- however, Eric's tank is unique in not having a smooth top
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Shane H
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Posted: October 09 2009 at 10:34pm |
Denying the Antecedent
Could be.
The logical fallacy being: Since I like the engraved hood, I must therefore like the engraved glass.
One cannot assume x because of y.
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Posted: October 09 2009 at 10:38pm |
Adam,
My bubble is certainly not burst. I'm not expressing an opinion either way. I just enjoy the arguement and the logical fallacies that occur as a result. I haven't seen many lighted tanks to know whether most have engraved logos. The lighted tanks I have seen, did not.
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Posted: October 09 2009 at 10:40pm |
YEAH! Everyone get your popcorn, Shane vs thefu!
I am taking all bets now. Please PM with your pick and your wager!
LOL JK guys, all in good spirit!
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Posted: October 09 2009 at 10:59pm |
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Maybe I should weigh in. But then again arguing with dimwits never has accomplished anything. (course Shane might beat me)
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Shane H
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Posted: October 09 2009 at 11:17pm |
But then again arguing with dimwits never has accomplished anything.
I know when its time to be quiet! 
One final thought though ... (and my official opinion)
If a vendor (any vendor) is willing to donate to a club event then the club should be gracious and appreciative of the donation.
And ... I like the engraving on the stand and canopy. I would avoid it on the glass tank.
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Posted: October 09 2009 at 11:49pm |
I too like some of the engraving on the wood, but not wording, logos or acronyms. Personal opinion is that it detracts and it becomes a sign. Although I was not surprised that some did not mind the lettering on the canopy, I was very surprised that many actually preferred it...hence the somewhat tongue-in-cheek suggestion that if this Ice Age tank were to be in the raffle it should have it too.
I completely agree with you Shane, any donation should be and is greatly appreciated. Both the stand and this tank are incredible pieces of handiwork.  to all!
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Posted: October 09 2009 at 11:50pm |
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I am sorry this post has been this controversial, I was hoping to spark some excitment but instead it ended in controversy.
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Posted: October 09 2009 at 11:53pm |
Seems to me the controversy in this thread is pretty much just goofing around and all in good fun.
Otherwise, the consensus is that you built a really cool tank.
Great Job! Hopefully I can come see it before you find a home for it.
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Posted: October 09 2009 at 11:54pm |
I am excited...this tank rocks!!!
When will we see it in the store complete and full of livestock?
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Posted: October 09 2009 at 11:55pm |
Will Spencer wrote:
Seems to me the controversy in this thread is pretty much just goofing around and all in good fun.
Otherwise, the consensus is that you built a really cool tank.
Great Job! Hopefully I can come see it before you find a home for it. |
 Spot on!
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Posted: October 10 2009 at 11:56am |
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I never claimed to be running with the most popular vote and I would totally rock this tank with some etching along the top front as long as it was all above the water line! If you etched some light snow in or ice caps on some of those points so that they would glow a little different when the lights are on that would be pretty cool also! and it's not like glass etching is hard to do. Most of us did it in art glass at some point in school.
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What?! You pooped in the refrigerator, and ate the entire wheel of cheese?! I'm not even mad.... That's actually amazing!
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Posted: October 11 2009 at 10:21pm |
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Since I may be one of the only people who havent seen a tank like this (not just the fancy mountains but rimless) Where do you put the LEDs? are they mounted above the tank or mounted in the bottom some how?
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Posted: October 11 2009 at 10:50pm |
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below in the stand.
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Posted: October 11 2009 at 10:52pm |
FIRE SHRIMP wrote:
below in the stand. |
awesome job!
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