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    Posted: February 17 2004 at 8:29pm
I'm at my wits end! I see aptasia, they are everywhere.
They are starting to crowdout the corals.   They are Growing as
carpets on Live rock and the sand bed. Some are as big a
round as silver dollars. I've tried cutting them off(it just seems to
make more). As of late, smaller ones float in the water and
adhear to the fish. It's a sad day when you have so much
Aptasia it grows on your fish.   Would it be best to replace all
the Live rock and Sand? I'm willing to try peppermint shrimp
but I think I'd need an army. Any good methods for killing these
buggers by the masses?

The tank is 20 gallons and has been setup for almost two years
now.
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When aptasia showed up in my aquarium I got peppermint shrimp.  I have about 5 in a 150.  They cleaned it up except for one.  I don't know why they don't like that one.  Maybe they are saving it for a special occasion.  The shrimp have grown and shed their  skins several times so they must be getting plenty to eat.  You can buy them fairly cheaply.  Check out the promo for the new lfs at the top of the board.  They would be worth a try.
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Peppermint shrimp got rid of my aiptasia and many other peoples successfully. I wouldn't think an army would be necessary, but they are happier in small groups. For 20 gallons I would think 3 would wipe out all but the last few offenders in a few weeks. From The Sea always has tons of them at the best price.
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Inject them with Kalk Paste... Unless there are more than it's
worth, then I'd just nuke the whole tank... Just kidding.
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i've read that racoon butterflies do a great job on aptasia's as well...but seeing as your tank is a 20 it's probably not a good idea....
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In addition to the shrimp you can place small rocks around and on top of the aptasias. The aptasias will move to the top - after about a day. You can then remove the rocks and let them dry out, then use the rocks again. I do think the shrimp are the easiest solution though...   
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Anyone have any problem with your peppermint shrimp and any other anemones? I recently got a flower anemone in the reeftopia order. It was doing great the first few days - then a peppermint shrimp decided it was easier to steal food from the anenome than to find it himself. Then he started using the anenome for food. It didnt take long before it had killed the anenome, despite my best efforts to save it. Just wondering if anyone else had any similar experiences with peppermint shrimp and other anenomes.... (BTW - these are peppermint shrimp - not camelbacks...)

 

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I have not had any experience with peppermints and anemonies but every night that I tried to spot feed my braincorals and my candycane corals my peppermint would come and steal it all right out of their mouth. It didn't look like they liked that too much because they would always retract way back. Even if I tried protecting the corals for an hour while they ate, the moment I left the shrimp was right there just ripping it all out.

Since then I have taken him out and put him into my refugium. Now I can feed my corals in peace.
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Originally posted by DVadar DVadar wrote:

   Any good methods for killing these
buggers by the masses? 

Take a look at these links, they will provide some insight for you. http://www.seaslugforum.net/aiptasia.htmhttp://www.aquarium.net/faqs/aiptasia.shtml, http://saltaquarium.about.com/cs/msubpestaiptasia. There are many methods to ridding aiptasia, it just depends on how much time you have to spend. You can inject each anemone with really hot water, OD with kalkwasser, lime solution (so I hear), or a number of other methods. Cutting, squishing or otherwise can actually cause their numbers to multiply, as you have found out. Natural predators are peppermint shrimp, copperband butterfly fish (too large for your system) and a species of nudibranch.

I don't think that you need to tear apart your tank. But, the longer you wait the more aiptasia you will have. Something else to consider is if you decide to kill them in place you will have all of that decaying matter in your system that can cause increased ammonia levels. Try doing smaller sections at a time and be prepared to do some water changes.

IMO. Good luck!



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I have a little bit of advice.  I am a huge believer in Peppermint shrimp, I have personally seen them wipe out aptasia in my tanks.  I'm also a fan of copperband butterflies, kalk injections and other things.  But here is my main advice....

TALK TO JAKE!  He has given presentations on this before and has much experience.

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Peppermint shrimp seems a logical answer.  From the Sea for about $4.00 each.  Get three or four, maybe five.  When the Aiptasia are gone you can trade away your surplus back to one or two.  We have had two or three Peppermints in a 200 gal. system and have never had any Aiptasia.  We brought home Majanos instead! 
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Originally posted by 1mariner7 1mariner7 wrote:

We brought home Majanos instead! 


Dang Majanos! I have them too.
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Large Aiptasia (over 1" tall) are not as readily eaten by Peppermint Shrimp.
On Saturday, I was in Fish4U and they had just sold a 2" Copperband. It would have been perfect for a 10-40 gal. tank to take care of a problem like this:



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Mark - Wow! Now that's some live rock!

Come on, admit it, the first aiptasia you ever found was exciting! You thought "cool, my live rock does have some life on it."

Every reef tank should have a least one peppermint shrimp. (my 2 cents)
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Peppermints work for me also.

Make sure a copperband is eating before you buy it. 

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Update: Good news, I'm starting to win the war! Several Peppermint Shrimp have been in the tank for two weeks and the aptasia are starting to recede. I've also turned off my main lights for a few days to help lower a green alge outbreak. Anyway things seem to be going better.

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(Whew!)  I'm glad!
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Just 1 other suggestion, watch the amount you're feeding and how often. This may help with success in your endeavor.

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Has anyone had problems with Copperband butterfly I am thinking about getting one but I don't know what types of corals they eat will someone fill me in on this.

 

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I think if you have a nice full growth reef tank then a copperband is fine.  I think the problem is when you have a baren tank and don't feed much, they have no choice but to eat polyps. 

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